[0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes (RivaTuner related)

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Re: Crashing while playing steam version

Post by kovarex » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:58 pm

Cazadore wrote:thread hijack because crash on steam fits.
my game doesnt even load properly, fresh install, and while loading i get this message at 2%

factorio_steam_new.PNG

i am confused, this is a fresh non modded install.
This is unrelated problem, you probably have some old mod enabled.

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Re: [0.12.25 steam] [posila] Crashing while playing steam version

Post by posila » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:54 pm

@DRZevus, @Raiden933: I am trying to fix the crash that happens when MSI Afterburner is running. I installed the latest version of MSI Afterburner, enabled overlay, but it didn't cause any crash in Factorio (or otherwise). Do you use it for GPU overclocking? What version of Afterburner and RivaTuner Statistics Server do you use? Can you somehow share your settings with me? Thank you in advance :)

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Re: [0.12.25 steam] [posila] Crashing while playing steam version

Post by Koub » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:27 pm

Posila, just to be sure, do you have the game installed on Steam (with Steam overlay enabled) and with MSI afterburner installed ? It seems that it's this combination that causes problems.
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Re: [0.12.25 steam] [posila] Crashing while playing steam version

Post by posila » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:47 pm

Koub wrote:Posila, just to be sure, do you have the game installed on Steam (with Steam overlay enabled) and with MSI afterburner installed ? It seems that it's this combination that causes problems.
Correct. I have tried it on several HW configurations already with no crashes. I am starting to think a cause of the crashes is not overlay but rather overclocked or somehow "fine tuned" GPU. So I am now interested how people who use MSI Afterburner (and the game crashes for them) have it configured.

Duplicate bug reports:
viewtopic.php?t=20606
viewtopic.php?t=20487
viewtopic.php?t=20603 (PrecisionX)
viewtopic.php?t=20609
viewtopic.php?t=20696
viewtopic.php?t=21153
viewtopic.php?t=21223
viewtopic.php?t=21580
viewtopic.php?t=20993
viewtopic.php?t=21463 (different stacktrace, same cause)
viewtopic.php?t=21829 (also different stacktrace)
viewtopic.php?t=21844
viewtopic.php?t=23113

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Re: [0.12.24 steam][posila] [pending] Crashing while playing steam version

Post by Sneff » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:24 pm

I tried setting the launch options to --force-opengl and that worked for me.
Thanks for the help

Also I use afterburner but not for overclocking just to keep an eye on my gpu.

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Re: [0.12.25 steam] [posila] Crashing while playing steam version

Post by Bossett » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:06 am

posila wrote:Correct. I have tried it on several HW configurations already with no crashes. I am starting to think a cause of the crashes is not overlay but rather overclocked or somehow "fine tuned" GPU.
I don't have any overclocking - I do have the afterburner overlay.

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Re: [0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes

Post by posila » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:31 am

I tried different versions of MSI Afterburner, still no crash.
So in next version Factorio will detect if it crashed in Steam overlay and will show information about disabling GPU monitoring tools or running game under OpenGL.

I am moving the thread to Known issues.

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Re: [0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes

Post by Bossett » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:59 am

From MSI Afterburner 4.1.1.7625 - not overclocking:

CPU
________________________________________________________________________________
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Logical cores : 8
CPUID : GenuineIntel family 6, model 2A, stepping 7
Tjmax : 98°C

GPU1
________________________________________________________________________________
Display device : GeForce GTX 970 on GM204-A GPU
Display driver : 361.91
BIOS : 84.04.2f.00.81
GUID : VEN_10DE&DEV_13C2&SUBSYS_366A1458&REV_A1&BUS_1&DEV_0&FN_0
Registry key : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{223AD1BF-D0D0-4AFF-B587-12537D72311B}\0000
VDDC controller : Display driver

On-Screen Display server
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Path : C:\Program Files (x86)\RivaTuner Statistics Server
Version : v6.3.0
Active client(s) : framerate monitoring module
: On-Screen Display module
Active 3D process : Dropbox.exe
: Telegram.exe
: seccenter.exe
: bdagent.exe
: download.ninja.exe
: 1Password.exe
: flux.exe
: ShareX.exe
: GalaxyClient.exe
: OneDrive.exe

Assigned hotkeys
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Toggle OSD : Ctrl + Shift + F12

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Re: [0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes

Post by daniel34 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:07 pm

Can you update to Afterburner 4.2.0 with RivaTuner Statistics Server 6.4.0/6.4.1 and see if the problem still occurs?
Apparently H1Z1 had the same problem after an update (crash on startup / very soon ingame) and updating the RTSS to 6.4.0 fixed the issue.

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Re: [0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes

Post by Bossett » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:20 am

daniel34 wrote:Can you update to Afterburner 4.2.0 with RivaTuner Statistics Server 6.4.0/6.4.1 and see if the problem still occurs?
Apparently H1Z1 had the same problem after an update (crash on startup / very soon ingame) and updating the RTSS to 6.4.0 fixed the issue.
Updated to the below - no crashes yet (RivaTuner has it's overlay on showing FPS, and game is running with no command line flags); Factorio 0.12.24-0

CPU
________________________________________________________________________________
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Logical cores : 8
CPUID : GenuineIntel family 6, model 2A, stepping 7
Tjmax : 98°C

GPU1
________________________________________________________________________________
Display device : GeForce GTX 970 on GM204-A GPU
Display driver : 361.91
BIOS : 84.04.2f.00.81
GUID : VEN_10DE&DEV_13C2&SUBSYS_366A1458&REV_A1&BUS_1&DEV_0&FN_0
Registry key : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{223AD1BF-D0D0-4AFF-B587-12537D72311B}\0000
VDDC controller : Display driver

On-Screen Display server
________________________________________________________________________________
Path : C:\Program Files (x86)\RivaTuner Statistics Server
Version : v6.4.1
Active client(s) : framerate monitoring module
: On-Screen Display module
Active 3D process : flux.exe
: GalaxyClient.exe
: Telegram.exe
: ShareX.exe
: download.ninja.exe
: bdagent.exe
: Factorio.exe

Assigned hotkeys
________________________________________________________________________________
Toggle OSD : Ctrl + Shift + F12

(MSI Afterburner 4.2.0 from http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi ... nload.html and using the version of RivaTuner that's bundled)

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Re: [0.12.24 steam] Steam version crashes every 3-5 minutes

Post by posila » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:20 pm

Thanks everyone for help. The problem really is pre-Windows 10 version of RivaTuner Statistics Server on Windows 10, which causes DirectX 9 games to crash. Updating RivaTuner Statistics Server (and whatever software installed it - MSI Afterbuner, EVGA PrecisionX or something similar) should fix this kind of crash.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=259903.0
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 4dc?auth=1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/18700822449

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