Holy balls, man. Are you still on about this?featherwinglove wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:41 am...well, all I can say is you have a very funny definition of "reasonable".
I considered posting this yesterday (as I honestly had a bit of an “ah-ha” moment), but chose not to until now...
You have actively boycotted a corporation for nearly three decades, through five (5) quite different CEO’s...
Please, boycott Wube, perhaps they will become the most powerful gaming company in the world. I’d quite like that, actually. I wish them all the fame and fortune. If you want to talk about bad gaming companies, you should focus on that list provided above in the slight “stock deviation” section.
As far I can tell Wube are one of the top tier game development studios.
Toward the censorship topic, I hope you realize that the only real “harmful” kind of corporate censorship that exists is a corporation attempting to control its employees (or clients) by threat of monetary loss, employment loss, or loss of access to the marketplace. (You mention DMs and imply they are from the developers. If any of them threatened you, your family, or your employment status, then I will agree with you that is uncalled for and hostile.)
Otherwise, the development studio pay for the resources of this forum, are able to dictate the rules of its use, and you, by using it have agreed to abide by said rules. I haven’t reread them in order to quote any applicable ones to this conversation, because I really don’t care that much.
But I seriously suggest letting this “Wube are the modern corporate equivalent to the worlds evil” thing go. I looked at forum post specifically setup to discuss modding the axe back in.
The topic was started with a guideline:
I find it interesting that it started quite productive with some ideas and pseudocode. This continues, a bit, interspersed between...Please keep this thread free of discussion about The Problem Existing in the first place and Why the problem is the worst case of negligence in a dev team. There are other places to discuss that.
A wall of text, from you, basically saying you know exactly how to fix this little conundrum we find ourselves in (which apparently is the worst problem facing our collective society, about to rip us down in flames and take us back to the dark ages).
Aside: I can’t tell what your profession is. I think you mentioned you’re a software developer, but that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. If you are, you should understand what I’m about to tell you, if not, please take this to heart. Most software developers don’t like to be told the equivalent of “oh, this is simple...all you have to do is [ten-point list which would cause two months of additional work to do].”
Now, text can be misleading, but from your early tone in that thread I think you were excited to see a “purple” post addressing the modding API in a way to Make Pickaxes Great Again. And I do think you were trying to help.
Your next post (again, I think your main intention is trying to be helpful) is to ping two authors of mods similar to what are being discussed. However, the main mistake here is the actual quotes you used to ping.
One of them, BuilderOfAges simply says “yeah, I have high hopes, but I’m waiting for the dust to settle”. (Not a bad option, by the way. Gives time for emotions to settle.) He graciously bows out, and suggests maybe you should try your idea of a mod.
The other “bobbingabout” seems to be taking an (assumed by me) “mental health” break from the forums at the moment—been there, done that—very “zen”).
(Here would have been a great opportunity to channel your concerns into trying to see what you could do with a very basic mod, which would give you insight into the API, serve as a diversion from the forum, and potentially give a sense of accomplishment, and a start to a concrete solution to a problem you’ve identified.)
Next is a bit more discussion (and a bit of helpful psuedocode) pointing out a few more things.
Then, another post from you, pulling on some more quotes, general grumpiness, and...an anime image? Maybe. I dunno what that thing is.
(Note, abregado asked specifically for this to not happen in that thread.)
And the next post...
Moderator locks the thread.
And said moderator comes here, to try to help you understand why they have been a bit more ... “locky” on this particular subject. And instead of look at it and maybe reflect that you could have followed the posted rules for that thread; you choose to fight back, find some nit-picky details to prove the other threads were “locked under false pretense” (or something...I’m really not sure why you’re still being argumentative toward the devs and moderators at this point).
Now, please understand I’m not trying to be mean. I do still think, overall, you’re trying to help solve something you feel very passionate about. But I really think you need to channel your frustration into something more constructive. I would encourage to pick up the modding API and get to know it. This will help you redirect your frustrations toward something constructive, and you might come out the other side with something that helps the whole Factorio community.
I’m speaking from a place of knowing. I was right in the middle of the “belts vs bots” firestorm. I was actually considering that logistics bots, growing forward, would not be what I wanted them to be. I play a heavily-vanilla-ed game. I prefer that to mods. Other than World of Warcraft, Factorio is probably my most played single game title. And I take my games very seriously (“professional raider” in the good-old-days when I had a lot of WoW time). Believe me, I had some *very* passionate diatribes about tanking balance through a decade of high level end game content.
I looked into the mod API. So that I would have the tools and knowledge to be able to help save my pet feature, if possible; in the case that it was effectively removed. I’m happy I did so. It was a good break from the forums and it expanded some ideas in my general programmer brain.
I don’t know you, so I have no idea if your avatar is you, or a persona. But if you really do feel this strongly, I applaud you for being passionate in life. But I caution as well, this is a game. A digital diversion. These are very important. We are humans. We need entertainment.
We need a tribe to identify. But this forum is filled with other humans. It is filled with a development and moderation team who are also humans. They also put steak on the table via this game. To them it is a bit more than passion.
Please, everyone, remember when you toss a quote into this forum and add some color commentary, you are talking about (and to) an actual person somewhere on the planet.
Now, this is my last contribution to the whole axe thing. (Yes, it’s my final pickaxe to grind. :: grin ::) I prefer to see how the game works with the changes in. I still might change my mind (though doubtful) on the pickaxe. :: shrugs, wanders off humming “Kumbaya” ::