Trains are great, but stacked belts outclass them in raw throughput.
If the legendary version of Cargos had increased cargo size, they’d be a much stronger alternative and stay competitive in late-game setups.
Quality should increase train wagons capacity.
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Re: Increase cargo size for Legendary Cargo Wagons and Fluid Wagons
+1, also just generally (w/o considering quality) I feel like trains are weak compared to how cheap/fast belting is...
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Re: Increase cargo size for Legendary Cargo Wagons and Fluid Wagons
I like this idea, or at the very least I like the idea of trains being better.
Maybe there is a reason that train wagons aren't affected meaningfully by quality, but maybe not? steel / logistics chests were originally unaffected by quality and were patched to be bigger with quality AFAIK
On that note, maybe quality train locomotives could accelerate a bit faster and have a slightly higher top speed, too.
Maybe there is a reason that train wagons aren't affected meaningfully by quality, but maybe not? steel / logistics chests were originally unaffected by quality and were patched to be bigger with quality AFAIK
On that note, maybe quality train locomotives could accelerate a bit faster and have a slightly higher top speed, too.
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Re: Increase cargo size for Legendary Cargo Wagons and Fluid Wagons
This is already provided by quality fuel. But I think braking force would be more useful anyway. It’s actually quite important for throughput.juliawtapp wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:07 am On that note, maybe quality train locomotives could accelerate a bit faster and have a slightly higher top speed, too.
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Re: Increase cargo size for Legendary Cargo Wagons and Fluid Wagons
given the fact that quality fuel does do that, and the fact that braking force is not an infinite research, it does make sense that they could have better brakes.CyberCider wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:37 amThis is already provided by quality fuel. But I think braking force would be more useful anyway. It’s actually quite important for throughput.juliawtapp wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:07 am On that note, maybe quality train locomotives could accelerate a bit faster and have a slightly higher top speed, too.
anything more interesting than increased health (not super useful) would be welcome for me.
Re: Quality should increase train wagons capacity.
[Koub] Merged innto an existing thread with the same suggestion, and moved back to Balancing subforum.
See also viewtopic.php?t=119199
See also viewtopic.php?t=119199
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Improve Quality Wagons (equal to quality chests)
Quality Wagons should have an increased storage, similar to quality chests.
Why is this so important? I love train grids and with quality, productivity, better modules/beacons the production and consumption increased by a lot (more than +150% aka legendary), however the wagons size stood the same. This is a huge issue because the wagon unloads in ~1-2 seconds, so trains become actually inefficient (high deliver time, low transfer rate). The best adaptive solution would be to have quality wagons (like quality chests) an increased storage (do not forget liquid wagons).
Optional it would also be amazing to have a higher speed/acceleration or quality trains, for the sake of train grid players in Space Age.
Why is this so important? I love train grids and with quality, productivity, better modules/beacons the production and consumption increased by a lot (more than +150% aka legendary), however the wagons size stood the same. This is a huge issue because the wagon unloads in ~1-2 seconds, so trains become actually inefficient (high deliver time, low transfer rate). The best adaptive solution would be to have quality wagons (like quality chests) an increased storage (do not forget liquid wagons).
Optional it would also be amazing to have a higher speed/acceleration or quality trains, for the sake of train grid players in Space Age.
Re: Improve Quality Wagons (equal to quality chests)
Previously:
And probably several more.
This was implemented as CargoWagonPrototype property quality_affects_inventory_size in Version 2.0.29. There are several mods to enable this.
This was implemented as CargoWagonPrototype property quality_affects_inventory_size in Version 2.0.29. There are several mods to enable this.
Re: Quality should increase train wagons capacity.
[Koub] Merged a couple of threads with the same or similar suggestion.
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