Version 2.1.7

[Alendo]

Can't wait to get back home to try this out!

[waterBear]

Can't wait to get back home to try this out!

It's pretty great.

There are some small breaking changes. Certain recipes on the refinery no longer output the way they used to. The recycler outputs to a different lane of belts, depending on how it's oriented. I'm sure there are other things.

But seeing the planets and being able to auto-queue infinite mining prod is already worth the price of admission.

[zergologist]

Just a consistency thing that I'd like to see fixed, the calcite icons used in the simple coal liquefaction and acid neutralization are still the old recolored uranium ore chunks instead of the new calcite chunks. The other recipes that use calcite in their icons use the updated sprites, just those two are still using the old calcite.

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[Duck986]

Mod that reverts hazard concrete recycling nerf in 3... 2... 1...

[j_matya]

Does anyone know the hotkey to change which side of the belt a recycler outputs on? They changed the default side apparently (at least in some cases) and it has deadlocked some of my designs.

I used "h" for flipping horizontal.

[FutureSpec]

Is there any hint of a chance of getting new achievements with 2.1? Earlier one of the devs had talked about wanting to add some but no mention in this changelog

[sarge945]

Absolutely loving the new update so far!

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I kind of wish there was a hidden "Force allow incompatible mods" setting so that mod authors can try seeing how things play with experimental updates.

[TamTamTam]

Nerfing hazard concrete recycling feel a bit like a dick move, no offense. It was a technique that felt really smart to use instead of samey recycling. Also, it was kinda fixing what felt like an oversight of recycling recipes not taking in account amount of items per craft and concrete recycling taking more time than crafting same amount of it. I feel like you should've at least change recycling recipes to account for items per craft if you are nerfing hazard concrete recycling.

[vemusa]

Attaching an entity with an filtered input-output port to a pipeline will lock the whole pipeline to that filter.

I hate this change. In my opinion, it caused too much collateral damage just to fix a minor issue.
One collateral damage it caused is that it's no longer possible to use dynamic fluid pipe setup with filtered input-output ports, even if the setup does not rely on the bug it intend to fix.
Another collateral damage is:

Since the update my EM plants making science on Fulgora (previously slowly ~60spm) now don't hold on to the holmium solution being piped in. So if there isn't enough holmium solution to craft a science pack straight away then it slowly drains out back into the fluid system (for the holmium plate foundry to gobble up).

Any mod to revert this change?

[malventano]

So you unreasonably nerfed concrete recycling (It should really take 1/10th of time it took now)
And have not added quality mixing

It is impressive how developers doesn't want to make Quality fun to work with.

Like really whole quality is now just "ignore mechanics exist untill you get to legendary quality" and all inbetween steps just full of misery

The craft-recycle loop with hazard concrete we have now can grind 32 concrete per second into 8 concrete per second with a single (common, unmoduled) recycler and an assembler 3 running part time, and you think recycling should run 10 times faster than that?!?!

The recycling time for recipes like concrete aren't calculated correctly. They only use the base crafting time, and since concrete is made in batches of 10, the recycling time is 10 times longer than it should be, per item, compared to items with recipes that only output a single item.
Wube first doubled down on that by closing bug reports as not bugs and now tripled down on it by also making hazard concrete as annoying to recycle.

Can we revisit the hazard concrete change? Seems an odd one to pick out as something worth changing, considering all it does is require you to stamp down more recyclers. Doesn't serve to make gameplay more interesting or balanced either. Otherwise, good stuff!

Nerfing hazard concrete recycling feel a bit like a dick move, no offense. It was a technique that felt really smart to use instead of samey recycling. Also, it was kinda fixing what felt like an oversight of recycling recipes not taking in account amount of items per craft and concrete recycling taking more time than crafting same amount of it. I feel like you should've at least change recycling recipes to account for items per craft if you are nerfing hazard concrete recycling.

This was previously a fun workaround for the player to discover during gameplay. If the recipe properly accounted for the items per craft, it would at least only be 6.2x as painful instead of the current 62x as painful. If the devs care so much about balancing then they should do it properly instead of stacking a nerf on top of a previously ignored bug/inconsistency.

[Rseding91]

Any mod to revert this change?

As an alternative to a mod you can use

Code: Select all

/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")

and configure it to void items.

[Tias00]

[*] Disallowed scheduling new deliveries to a space platform with all wait conditions fulfilled. (120285)

Love it. Easily the best change this update not announced in FFF, and top 5 when including those <3.

[Alendo]

I just got home, but now I'm struggling to get my headless server up and running.
I get an error that it fails to load mod "quality":

0.329 Error Util.cpp:81: Failed to load mod "quality": __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:48: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'default_icon_size' (a nil value)

Been troubleshooting for a bit here now, but I'm not that adept in Linux so I might be doing rookie mistakes. Anyone else having a similar problem?

[Eiermann]

I just got home, but now I'm struggling to get my headless server up and running.
I get an error that it fails to load mod "quality":

0.329 Error Util.cpp:81: Failed to load mod "quality": __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:48: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'default_icon_size' (a nil value)

Been troubleshooting for a bit here now, but I'm not that adept in Linux so I might be doing rookie mistakes. Anyone else having a similar problem?

viewtopic.php?p=695026#p695026

[Erfar]

Attaching an entity with an filtered input-output port to a pipeline will lock the whole pipeline to that filter.

I hate this change. In my opinion, it caused too much collateral damage just to fix a minor issue.
One collateral damage it caused is that it's no longer possible to use dynamic fluid pipe setup with filtered input-output ports, even if the setup does not rely on the bug it intend to fix.
Another collateral damage is:

Since the update my EM plants making science on Fulgora (previously slowly ~60spm) now don't hold on to the holmium solution being piped in. So if there isn't enough holmium solution to craft a science pack straight away then it slowly drains out back into the fluid system (for the holmium plate foundry to gobble up).

Any mod to revert this change?

I believe you can hotfix EM plant issue with usage pump as one-way valve

[Alendo]

I just got home, but now I'm struggling to get my headless server up and running.
I get an error that it fails to load mod "quality":

0.329 Error Util.cpp:81: Failed to load mod "quality": __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:48: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'default_icon_size' (a nil value)

Been troubleshooting for a bit here now, but I'm not that adept in Linux so I might be doing rookie mistakes. Anyone else having a similar problem?

viewtopic.php?p=695026#p695026

Aha, ok, thanks! Didn't even see that post

[crypt0_]

Maybe this is an issue because of the 2-way connections of the EM plant? If so, this sounds more like a new "bug" because of the fluid changes. Which means it should be handled internally instead of the player needing to use mods / hotfixes or workarounds imo.

[radical_larry]

Any mod to revert this change?

As an alternative to a mod you can use

Code: Select all

/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")

and configure it to void items.

How will that help with the fluid buffer changes on EM-plants?

[vemusa]

Any mod to revert this change?

As an alternative to a mod you can use

Code: Select all

/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")

and configure it to void items.

Are you sure you wanted to quote my post, not those complaining about hazard concrete recycling recipe?
As far as I know, an infinity chest voiding items can't solve the pipeline problem, but it can solve the Fulgora concrete problem.

[wodzu93]

Changes

• Biter/spitter spawners will emit a cloud of damaging acid if they are blocked from spawning units.

Well, SHIT. My base is so cooked - I have "captured" so many nests in my save with walls to block their spawns (greatly prevents evolution by avoiding nest kills) that I haven't bothered to put anything more than token defences. As soon as I load the save, there are like 100+ nests within pollution cloud. RIP.