End game research for promethium. Techs to boost all planets resources

[erkki772]

End game promethium science have only lab production boost and that's it. There really isn't end game research to go even more nuts. So I've been thinking boosting all other planets resources using promethium science.

Nauvis:
Biter egg processing: Modules have access to put in captured nests. One module each level. 5 levels

Vulcanus:
Lava handing: Product made from lava gives 10% increased production. 5 levels

Fulgora:
Lighting tech: Gives lighting collectors 1 GJ bigger capacity and 10MW slower drain rate. 5 levels

Gleba:
GMO processing: Unlocks tech to use quality seeds to plant quality trees. Quality tree gives one guaranteed quality fruit. One guaranteed fruit per level. 5 levels (normal amount of fruits + quality fruit(s))

Aquilo:
Warmer pipe: Bigger heat radius for pipes. 2 levels. Costs starts from 500 000


Cost would start from 50 000 and 10x cost for each research

[quineotio]

End game promethium science have only lab production boost and that's it. There really isn't end game research to go even more nuts. So I've been thinking boosting all other planets resources using promethium science.

I like the idea of further research for promethium science, but I would suggest some different things. The things I'd like to see expand what options you have at the endgame by removing restrictions. Some ideas:

1. Allow placement of Gleba soil on Nauvis.
2. Allow the cryoplant to freeze spoilable items to halt spoilage.
3. Allow direct crafting of quality materials items if combined with prometheum chunks.
4. Allow building machines on any planet.
5. Allow placement of crushers on planets.
6. Allow placement of biolabs on any planet.
7. Allow foundries to create molten metals from plates
8. Allow placing multiple landing pads per planet
9. Increase underground pipe length

[Amarula]

Space radar! In other words a radar thingy that does for interplanetary logistics what the new radar network does for a single planet. And a separate tech that lets you tell which planet the space radar signal is from...

[quineotio]

Space radar! In other words a radar thingy that does for interplanetary logistics what the new radar network does for a single planet. And a separate tech that lets you tell which planet the space radar signal is from...

What would you use this for?

[Amarula]

Space radar! In other words a radar thingy that does for interplanetary logistics what the new radar network does for a single planet. And a separate tech that lets you tell which planet the space radar signal is from...

What would you use this for?

Logistics? Between planets?
So in the regular logistics system, a provider chest tells the network hey I have this item available, and a requester can ask for it.
With the new radar in 2.0, an outpost on one side of the planet can say hey I have this available, and a radar on the other side of the planet can ask for it, and you can set up a train to automatically go pick it up and deliver it where it is needed.
My suggestion would work between planets: a planet could use it to indicate hey I have this available, and another planet could say hey I need it, and a platform could pick it up and deliver it.

[Shadowhawk]

It would be nice if there would be more tech, or some of the infinite tech would start using this at some point.

Just to make it more usefull to actually get it. Its a bit bland now, only used for research productivity.
Maby do it like the damage upgrades, after level 15 make it so it starts using prometium tech but gets cheaper to start off with.

Maby some bonus to modules, like a 10% bonus to the modules. Its only a little but can add up.

[eugenekay]

Previously

[Koub]

[Koub] Merged into an older thread with a similar suggestion.

[Hurkyl]

I actively oppose wider heating radius for heat pipes. My opinions after having thought about it in the abstract are:

• At radius one, their consideration is a central component of your design patterns for laying out a factory
• At radius two, they can be brushed off to a secondary concern, but intrusive enough to be a right nuisance in that role
• At radius three, they become a nuisance mechanic but cease to be a particularly meaningful design constraint
• At radius four, you might as well not have the mechanic at all

[CyberCider]

It would be nice if there would be more tech, or some of the infinite tech would start using this at some point.

Just to make it more usefull to actually get it. Its a bit bland now, only used for research productivity.
Maby do it like the damage upgrades, after level 15 make it so it starts using prometium tech but gets cheaper to start off with.

Research productivity basically researches a piece of every infinite technology at once. You don’t need it to research any infinite past a certain point, but it certainly makes it a lot easier.

Also, it’s postgame content. There shouldn’t be any reason to get it. If you make promethium, you do it just for its own sake. The game is already over, there are no more in-game incentives, only the player’s own goals.

I actively oppose wider heating radius for heat pipes.

Agreed, I see nothing positive about effectively erasing a planet’s defining mechanic. It would be the same as adding regular single ores to Fulgora, or making Gleba’s items stop spoiling. Or making Vulcanus’s… Uh… Well, Vulcanus doesn’t actually add anything new.

[h.q.droid]

I'd suggest something like the spidertron. It was also post-game content that is cool but not necessary.

[CyberCider]

I'd suggest something like the spidertron. It was also post-game content that is cool but not necessary.

It wasn’t postgame though, just endgame. It didn’t require space science.

[Hurkyl]

I'd suggest something like the spidertron. It was also post-game content that is cool but not necessary.

It wasn’t postgame though, just endgame. It didn’t require space science.

In vanilla, the Rocket silo is fairly early in the purple/yellow tech tree. I generally consider most of purple/yellow science tech to be post-game.

[Shadowhawk]

End game promethium science have only lab production boost and that's it. There really isn't end game research to go even more nuts. So I've been thinking boosting all other planets resources using promethium science.

3. Allow direct crafting of quality materials items if combined with prometheum chunks.

And having to bring chunks all the way back to nauvis to do so? With stack size of 1.
Would be nice for some small scale you know spare spaces on your spacecraft but for large scale not really.

Who is transporting these chunks back anyway the size considerations are insane while just bringing 4k bitter eggs and processing in space is a lot easier to do.

[CyberCider]

In vanilla, the Rocket silo is fairly early in the purple/yellow tech tree. I generally consider most of purple/yellow science tech to be post-game.

Well, I prefer to stick to the definition: Something is postgame if beating the game is a requirement for obtaining it. But I do understand your point of view.

[quineotio]

End game promethium science have only lab production boost and that's it. There really isn't end game research to go even more nuts. So I've been thinking boosting all other planets resources using promethium science.

3. Allow direct crafting of quality materials items if combined with prometheum chunks.

And having to bring chunks all the way back to nauvis to do so? With stack size of 1.
Would be nice for some small scale you know spare spaces on your spacecraft but for large scale not really.

Who is transporting these chunks back anyway the size considerations are insane while just bringing 4k bitter eggs and processing in space is a lot easier to do.

Some people bring back promethium already, but as you said, there's not a lot of point AT THE MOMENT because you can't do anything with it. There would be a point if there was a point.

And the recipe doesn't need to be one chunk = one quality item. You crush down all the other asteroid chunks into a larger number of items - it could be the same with promethium. And the recipe also doesn't need to be 1 to 1. You could e.g. combine a batch of non quality plates with promethium, like how calcite works.

[Shadowhawk]

End game promethium science have only lab production boost and that's it. There really isn't end game research to go even more nuts. So I've been thinking boosting all other planets resources using promethium science.

3. Allow direct crafting of quality materials items if combined with prometheum chunks.

And having to bring chunks all the way back to nauvis to do so? With stack size of 1.
Would be nice for some small scale you know spare spaces on your spacecraft but for large scale not really.

Who is transporting these chunks back anyway the size considerations are insane while just bringing 4k bitter eggs and processing in space is a lot easier to do.

Some people bring back promethium already, but as you said, there's not a lot of point AT THE MOMENT because you can't do anything with it. There would be a point if there was a point.

And the recipe doesn't need to be one chunk = one quality item. You crush down all the other asteroid chunks into a larger number of items - it could be the same with promethium. And the recipe also doesn't need to be 1 to 1. You could e.g. combine a batch of non quality plates with promethium, like how calcite works.

Would be nice, though you can get legendary stuff on every planet with not to much efford really.

Prometium having a halflife of like 30 mins would be nice. A bit like RL uranium once the asteroid chucks are spawned ( or collected ) they decay into random asteriods after 30mins.
Would offset the advantage of doing quality that way.