[2.0.23] Crash in main menu with certain mods (SpacePlatform::draw)

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[2.0.23] Crash in main menu with certain mods (SpacePlatform::draw)

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I decided to add quite a few QoL and other various mods to a new Multiplayer world after having finished vanilla Space Age. After getting the list of mods we wanted to use and installing/initializing them, my game started to crash on the main menu. I looked at the changelog and spotted the error lines and removed which mods I thought were causing the errors, but the error then looked like it was a directory issue. I validated my game files and booted the game back up and am still getting crashes. I haven't spent long enough in game to test what might cause a crash in game, as I would like to play with all of the mods enabled if I can. Would using the Experimental version break many things or perhaps solve the issue? Please help! I feel like I am stuck on !quilo with no rocket silo :oops: :cry:
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factorio-previous(from menu).log
log generated when crash occurred in the main menu.
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factorio-current(from startup).log
log generated when crash occurred while the game was loading and reached 95% (before main menu).
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

Post by Loewchen »

Looks like a hardware issue, see 58225. You can try reducing render threads in settings, if it reduces the frequency of crashes it would confirm the cause. If you find a way to produce the crashes reliably (as in a sequence of actions that will 100% cause the crash) let us know.
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

Post by Ike.D »

Hey, thanks for the quick response. I have been trying to load into the game and now am unable to., as it crashes at the same 95% mark as before. I updated my graphics drivers and Windows, and the problem persists. also I have noticed there is a machine gun turret discharge before the game crashes, if that helps. I wonder one of my mods affected the turrets in some way that is causing issues. How am I able to change those render thread settings outside of game? is there a .json that I can edit? Thanks again for your help :)
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factorio-current(most recent).log
crashes at 95% before main menu (log created after system update and restart)
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factorio-current(from startup-post update).log
"" this is the most recent log created repeatably
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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Open your config.ini (win+R --> paste: C:/Users/Isaac/AppData/Roaming/Factorio/config) and replace the line:

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; max-threads=4
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max-threads=1
make sure to replace the whole line, save the file and start factorio. If it still always crashes post a new log please.

Edit: For you the original value won't be 4 but 12...
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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I finished following the other thread and updated my CPU drivers, and also I went into the config.ini and changed the max threads. I first tried 12 threads down to 4 to no success, and then went down from 4 to 1, and its still crashing. I have yet to update BiOS divers, but that is my next focus. any other tips?
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factorio-current(post chipupdate and render thread red4-1).log
log made after render thread reduction in config.ini from 4 to 1
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factorio-current(post chipupdate and render thread red12-4).log
log made after render thread reduction in config.ini from 12 to 4
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factorio-current(post CPUdriver update).log
First log after AMD driver update and restart.
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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This is weirdly reliable.
If you disable all mods (you can do this by opening the mod-list.json in the mods folder and replacing all but for the base mod the true with false) does it stop crashing?
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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I updated my Motherboard drivers as well. The many updates to my poor luddite PC includde: graphics, CPU, and motherboard driver updates. The problem sadly persists. next I will start removing mods one by one to try to find the culprit. many of the mods have been updated extremely recently (as in first to download Valerian's planets and a few others), so i expected some kinks to work out, but i cant even load the game now :oops: here are the log and dump files, as well as a mod list. thanks again for the help along the process though :D

edit:the actual CPU update was hidden behind another window somehow after several PC restarts, so I am finishing up actually updating. hopefully this will fix it. :|
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mod-list.json
mod list making all the magic happen
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factorio-current(post MoBo driver update).log
log created at 95% loading after Graphics, CPU, and Motherboard driver updates.
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factorio-dump-current.dmp
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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the driver update did not work. I will have to sieve the mods to find which one isn't compatible with the others. I will post when I can get the game to run and both current and previous changlogs, but here are the most recent ones generated post-enlightenment(copious driver and system updates).

edit: disabling every mod fixed the problem, and I notice that it was defaulting to a space platform, so the gun turret was a red herring. i added numerous space platform mods, so I have narrowed my search slightly.
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factorio-dump-current.dmp
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factorio-current.log
Everything on my PC has been renaissanced into the modern era via graphic driver, Motherboard driver, and (for real this time) CPU driver updates.
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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Post a save file with all the mods needed to make it crash please. The save can be small, just to sync the mods and their settings.
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Re: [2.0.23] Crashing on main menu and startup but not once in game (SpacePlatform::draw)

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I tried disabling a few select space related mods, and I could get to the main menu with them, but I think if a space platform is shown on the main menu, it causes issues. here are the associated files and mod list. also noticed the dependencies param on Valerian's Planets in the mod are defined as "visible planets" and should be "Visible Planets in Space". not sure if this is the right place to try to help the mod authors :?
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factorio-dump-current.dmp
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factorio-current.log
removed "Valerian's Planets" and "Space Industry"
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Crash causing mod list.zip
save file containing the mod list
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Re: [2.0.23] Crash in main menu with certain mods (SpacePlatform::draw)

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My bad, this is a bug and already fixed in 2.0.24. :oops:
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Re: [2.0.23] Crash in main menu with certain mods (SpacePlatform::draw)

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That is great news!!! :D at least people smarter than me are aware there are issues. Thank you so much, Loewchen, you have been an amazing help to me. i look forward to reading the patch notes when 2.0.24 goes live. so for now should i just go without the space platform-related mods and continue as normal, or play with them enabled to try to pinpoint the exact scenario that causes it? it seems like it is being handled so I shouln't try to troubleshoot. thoughts? :?:
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Re: [2.0.23] Crash in main menu with certain mods (SpacePlatform::draw)

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2.0.24 is live already, you just have to enable experimental updates, see my signature.
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