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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Tertius wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:19 pm
How will the new 2.0 items and technologies find their way into the wiki?
Infoboxes and icons are already largely automated, so it's only a matter of updating that for 2.0, which I plan to do this and next week.

For locale, I generally do not recommend to blindly copy to Template:Translation from the locale file, since you may end up with a lot that's never used on the wiki.
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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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A progress update: I have created two templates, Template:SA to mark links as Space Age exclusive and Template:About/Space_age for whole pages and sections. These are quite barebones for now, if you have ideas for how to make them fancier please edit them.

Related to that, someone already started making some pages for Fulgora's items, thank you! I went through some of them and added the templates as an example for how I envision their use, see e.g. https://wiki.factorio.com/Electromagnetic_science_pack. It would be great to see feedback on that, or changes and so on, so we can establish a system as a community before the 21st. As the text below the wiki page edit box says, please "edit mercilessly". I don't want dictate a particularly style, I want this to serve as a starting point to improve upon.
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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Nice. The Template:SA looks nice and clean.

The "About" template however appears kind of wooden and convoluted. Do we really need a whole sentence to explain, including the word "paid" on every Space Age item?
Imagine this sentence will appear on 30% of all items:
"This article is about a feature exclusive to the paid Space Age expansion."
With the same reasoning, we could add a section to all items to differ between items, technologies, game concepts, etc.
"This article is about an item in Factorio, a factory building game available from Steam, GoG and WUBE:"
All this ist just cluttering the articles, in my opinion.

How about just a slightly larger Space Age icon, added at the end of the title of the article, to mark an article Space Age related? The picture says it all. If it is paid or not can be seen by clicking on the icon and reading the Space Age article. Additionally I propose to add the small icon in the infobox after the item name, since often you directly look at the infobox instead of reading the whole article from top to bottom.

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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Bilka wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:15 pm
Template:About/Space_age. These are quite barebones for now, if you have ideas for how to make them fancier please edit them.
1. One suggestion is to have the icon before the sentence and make to it a little larger. Two examples from eu4 wiki:
Article example: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/March
Section example: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_warfare#Sortie

2. Another suggestion is to reword the sentence so that "Space Age" is closer to the beginning of the sentence, since "Space Age" is the important information.
Examples:
-"Space Age{SA} expansion exclusive feature."
-"The Space Age{SA} expansion is required for this feature..."
-"Exclusive to the Space Age{SA} expansion."
-"Need Space Age{SA} enabled for this feature."
-"Available only with the Space Age{SA} expansion enabled."

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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Text shortened, thanks for the suggestions. I think it's good to keep some text so that it's clear what the icon means, at least while the expansion is new.
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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Checking back in here with a summary of the current state of the templates.

Templates for space age pages/sections/links: https://wiki.factorio.com/Template:Space_age (Used via {{SA}}) and https://wiki.factorio.com/Template:About/Space_age.

The new item and recipe icons are already uploaded/updated. The tech icons will come with expansion release (scripted).

I will use a script to update the data for the vanilla infoboxes (2.0 without space age) upon expansion release, this script is already done and tested.

I am working on a script to move and archive pages related to various vanilla item/tech renames and removals, this should be simple and I expect to get it done until release and will run it with release.

The infobox template code is not yet updated to handle space age recipe/tech variants or quality. This is my next task after the vanilla page moves/archiving. Space age related infobox data will only be automated later, there are still some technical issue to figure out first. (For example, right now the data would show that you need the recycling technology for concrete, which is obviously wrong.)


Discussion points that were brought up on talk pages, looking for input:
How to handle the enemies page? https://wiki.factorio.com/Talk:Enemies#Update_to_2.0
Template:Inventory or a new Template:Factoriopedia? https://wiki.factorio.com/User_talk:Bil ... _templates
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Re: Suggestions for the Wiki regarding Factorio Expansion Add-ons

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Bilka wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:33 am
The tech icons will come with expansion release (scripted).

I will use a script to update the data for the vanilla infoboxes (2.0 without space age) upon expansion release.

I am working on a script to move and archive pages related to various vanilla item/tech renames and removals, this should be simple and I expect to get it done until release and will run it with release.
All done. This means all expected script runs are completed for now. Now come manual page updates and for me the work on the infobox template to get space age support.

Let me know if any of the mentioned things look broken.
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