[1.1] Bob's Mods: General Discussion

[Mirco1502]

Because I checked it and altered belt speed per tier by 30 (instead of 15) but it doesn't works. Yellow belt speed is still at 15/s.

Red belt speed is what exactly with this setting?

30/s like without mods. (I also hoped it would affect T2 then, but no, sadly not)

it seems you're right. I'll try and change that in the newer version that it can effect the belt speed even if the belt overhaul is turned off.

That would be awesome! Thank you Bob! =)

[ptx0]

any reason that adding bobwarfare makes the science so much more complicated?

[kirazy]

any reason that adding bobwarfare makes the science so much more complicated?

Doesn't bobwarfare just build off bobenemies and make all the military technologies based on alien orbs?

[ptx0]

Doesn't bobwarfare just build off bobenemies and make all the military technologies based on alien orbs?

it adds radar tiers up to level 5 and the satellite recipe is changed to require this so there's a lot more complexity - something like 150 more buildings required to build the satellites.

[bobingabout]

Doesn't bobwarfare just build off bobenemies and make all the military technologies based on alien orbs?

it adds radar tiers up to level 5 and the satellite recipe is changed to require this so there's a lot more complexity - something like 150 more buildings required to build the satellites.

Mostly because it was requested.
"Launching a rocket is an end-game thing, it should require end-game Bob materials"

If Warfare is the only of my mods you have, it doesn't make as much sense as if you're running the whole Bobs suite.

[bobingabout]

The 1.1.3 update run.

Updates

Assembly 1.1.3:
Fluid burning metal mixing to/from fluid burning no longer cost/return pipes.
Steam power local fix

Electronics 1.1.3:
Minor changes to data-updates to avoid a crash.

Library 1.1.3:
Added a duplicate prerequsites check to the Technology prerequisites cleanup. (Handles split difficulty too)
Added a duplicate ingredient checking to library final fixes. (Handles split difficulty too)
Added icon_mipmaps to item/resource icon in ore-functions
Added icon embedded locale entry for created autoplace-controls

Logistics 1.1.3:
Belt speed overhaul can be used even if Belt overhaul is turned off.
Added "related_underground_belt" to belts for smart dragging feature.

Mining 1.1.3:
Steam power local fix

Ores 1.1.3:
Fixed sulfur icon size.
Fixed water icon size.

MCI 1.1.3:
Updated nuclear fuel and empty fuel cell icons to size 64
Added locale entry for Crude oil processing
Added Sulfuric-acid-3 and Sulfur-3 recipes to productivity filter list.
Added new item: Empty nuclear fuel cell, With Nuclear overhaul turned on. Costs lead and steel, fuel cells cost these instead of lead plates.

Power 1.1.3:
Moved the Boiler from FBB/HE recipes to the FBB/HE techs instead

Revamp 1.1.3:
Moved the Brine Electrolysis recipe to the RTG unlock (where Brine is unlocked)
Account for empty-nuclear-fuel-cell

Tech 1.1.3:
Checks if vehicle-roboport-equipment-2 exists.

Warfare 1.1.3:
Added combat robot brains and tools to productivity modules list
Fixed Napalm capsule and Laser robot capsule. Unknown key: "tooltip-category.shot"
laser-shooting-speed now effects laser-rifle instead of weapon-shooting-speed.

[valneq]

Thanks for the smart belt building support

[Mirco1502]

The 1.1.3 update run.

Updates

Assembly 1.1.3:
Fluid burning metal mixing to/from fluid burning no longer cost/return pipes.
Steam power local fix

Electronics 1.1.3:
Minor changes to data-updates to avoid a crash.

Library 1.1.3:
Added a duplicate prerequsites check to the Technology prerequisites cleanup. (Handles split difficulty too)
Added a duplicate ingredient checking to library final fixes. (Handles split difficulty too)
Added icon_mipmaps to item/resource icon in ore-functions
Added icon embedded locale entry for created autoplace-controls

Logistics 1.1.3:
Belt speed overhaul can be used even if Belt overhaul is turned off.
Added "related_underground_belt" to belts for smart dragging feature.

Mining 1.1.3:
Steam power local fix

Ores 1.1.3:
Fixed sulfur icon size.
Fixed water icon size.

MCI 1.1.3:
Updated nuclear fuel and empty fuel cell icons to size 64
Added locale entry for Crude oil processing
Added Sulfuric-acid-3 and Sulfur-3 recipes to productivity filter list.
Added new item: Empty nuclear fuel cell, With Nuclear overhaul turned on. Costs lead and steel, fuel cells cost these instead of lead plates.

Power 1.1.3:
Moved the Boiler from FBB/HE recipes to the FBB/HE techs instead

Revamp 1.1.3:
Moved the Brine Electrolysis recipe to the RTG unlock (where Brine is unlocked)
Account for empty-nuclear-fuel-cell

Tech 1.1.3:
Checks if vehicle-roboport-equipment-2 exists.

Warfare 1.1.3:
Added combat robot brains and tools to productivity modules list
Fixed Napalm capsule and Laser robot capsule. Unknown key: "tooltip-category.shot"
laser-shooting-speed now effects laser-rifle instead of weapon-shooting-speed.

Thank you!!

[Huillam]

Do aliens require a specific evolution level before they can spawn enemies able to drop colored artifacts?
I tend to slow down alien ability to spawn new bases by a large margin so they simply may not have spawned yet but in my previous playthroughs (few years ago) I was under the impression that elemental spawners could be generated from the very beginning.

[bobingabout]

Do aliens require a specific evolution level before they can spawn enemies able to drop colored artifacts?
I tend to slow down alien ability to spawn new bases by a large margin so they simply may not have spawned yet but in my previous playthroughs (few years ago) I was under the impression that elemental spawners could be generated from the very beginning.

All enemies drop artifacts.
Before "Big" enemies though, they only have a chance to drop small artifacts, so, you might need to kill a few before they show up.

I'd advise you to check settings, and make sure enemies dropping artifacts is turned on in the enemies mod section of the settings.

[Huillam]

Of course right after I asked I spotted an elemental spawner in radar range, went to check and got myself some colored alien artifacts. My usual (lack of) luck.
Everything works fine then. Sorry.

[bobingabout]

Of course right after I asked I spotted an elemental spawner in radar range, went to check and got myself some colored alien artifacts. My usual (lack of) luck.
Everything works fine then. Sorry.

Oh, right, maybe I'm still half asleep.

if you specifically want the coloured artifacts, you need to either travel some distance, as they start showing up after a certain distance, or your evolution factor to... 0.5 to make the elemental nests appear, or to 0.6 to make the lowest level elemental enemies spawn.
turning on the "Bigger sooner" option lowers all these values by 0.1.

[Airat9000]

Of course right after I asked I spotted an elemental spawner in radar range, went to check and got myself some colored alien artifacts. My usual (lack of) luck.
Everything works fine then. Sorry.

Oh, right, maybe I'm still half asleep.

if you specifically want the coloured artifacts, you need to either travel some distance, as they start showing up after a certain distance, or your evolution factor to... 0.5 to make the elemental nests appear, or to 0.6 to make the lowest level elemental enemies spawn.
turning on the "Bigger sooner" option lowers all these values by 0.1.

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[ja_feels]

Hey guys! Brand new user and was hoping for some insight.

I had been wanting a few new extras in my current playthrough so I downloaded a slew of bob's mod's after seeing there was a huge selection of additional early, mid, and end game content. I downloaded a few and was pretty excited until I realized that my factory was needing some overhauling and updating, no problem there!

The biggest issue I found is most of these new items and technologies are all requiring the new ores /chemicals/etc introduced with bob's mods which I'm not seeing anything pop up in my save file as it was a Vanilla world. I.E. Can't find deposits of cobalt, brass, etc.

I tried poking around with a few other mods seeing if they're let me add the required resources in real time but haven't had any luck.

I guess my ask is: Is there any work around for installing these mods on a game file/world that was vanilla or am I going to just need to uninstall them from that save and then start fresh to get the full experience Bob's Mods have to offer?

Thanks!
-Ja

[mmmPI]

The biggest issue I found is most of these new items and technologies are all requiring the new ores /chemicals/etc introduced with bob's mods which I'm not seeing anything pop up in my save file as it was a Vanilla world. I.E. Can't find deposits of cobalt, brass, etc.

From what i expect, the new ore will be generated only on newly revealed area now that the mod is installed.

Now cobalt and brass i'm not sure you will have deposit. Brass being an alloy, you will need to mix other ore to get some. Cobalt i'm not sure because things changes but in my memory it was possible to get some when refining copper ore.

Now you could still cheat to add nickel, lead, bauxite, zinc and so on in the already revealed area using the command /editor and then editing the map ( which disable achievement).

but all things considered i would still recommend starting a fresh game with the mods on, since they are quite a significant overhaul and can change the way you build from the start, that would give the full experience .

maybe it requires a bit of time/testing to find the most suitable combinaison of mods in the list for your game, getting a sneak peak at future technologies may help making a choice

[ja_feels]

but all things considered i would still recommend starting a fresh game with the mods on, since they are quite a significant overhaul and can change the way you build from the start, that would give the full experience .

maybe it requires a bit of time/testing to find the most suitable combinaison of mods in the list for your game, getting a sneak peak at future technologies may help making a choice

I figured this would be the case, thanks for the info I greatly appreciate it!

[bobingabout]

but all things considered i would still recommend starting a fresh game with the mods on, since they are quite a significant overhaul and can change the way you build from the start, that would give the full experience .

maybe it requires a bit of time/testing to find the most suitable combinaison of mods in the list for your game, getting a sneak peak at future technologies may help making a choice

I figured this would be the case, thanks for the info I greatly appreciate it!

It's already been said, but:
1. make sure you have bobores installed.
2. Cobalt and Sulfur will require the option to be turned on if you want the ore, but Sulfur comes from a lot of places, and Cobalt can be extracted from Copper ore once you research Cobalt Processing.
3. The ores will appear if you explore, but if you want to force them to show up you can use the commands /c remote.call("bobores", "Regenerate") to respawn all bob ores, or /c game.regenerate_entity("tin-ore") to respawn a specific ore (if you know it's internal code name)

[flame_Sla]

Steam powered assembling machine
by what formula is the crafting speed calculated for different temperatures?

165С - crafting speed=0.4
315С - crafting speed ?
...

[bobingabout]

Steam powered assembling machine
by what formula is the crafting speed calculated for different temperatures?

165С - crafting speed=0.4
315С - crafting speed ?
...

It's liniar.
T1 steam, 165C is 0.4
T2 steam, 315C is 0.8
T3 is 1.2
T4 is 1.6
T5 is 2.0

[Hearken]

I am trying to modify the amount of power generated by the nuclear machines in the power mod. I've managed to set the reactors and exchangers to my desired values, but the turbines seem to be capped at 11.82 MW because the maximum temperature they seem to be able to handle is 1000C:
0.2 KW * 60 * 1 * (1000-15) = 11820 KW.
My desired output from a turbine is 25 MW which is achievable at 2099C:
0.2 KW * 60 * 1 * (2099-15) = 25008 KW
Setting the maximum temperature for both reactors and exchangers to 2099C causes no issues as far as I can tell. The UI tooltip informs me that the maximum temperature of the turbine is 2099C, but the maximum output remains 11.82MW. Is there some way to increase this hidden maximum temperature so that I can get a higher power output?