[1.1.30] Four minutes after lastest save is loaded program freezes – 100% repeatable

[FuzzyBug57]

This is a file I have been playing for years and has produced a lot of products, e.g. over 189 billion copper coils.

When I load the latest save (Johns_Maxed_Out_Save.zip linked below) I do not have to do anything except wait for it to stop, which happens about four minutes after it is loaded. When it stops the only thing I seem to be able to do is Ctrl-Alt-Del to end the Factorio task.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bzNtfK ... sp=sharing

This happens every time I try it.

It first happened in version 1.1.19 two months ago so I stopped playing. I upgraded to 1.1.30 this week to try again and the same thing still happens.

The most recent log file is attached.

If you can help figure out what can be done to allow this file to continue to run I would very much appreciate it.

Even if it cannot be fixed if you can identify the cause, I’d be interested to hear what it is as I have a bet with my son about what the root cause is.

Thanks in Advance............JH

[jodokus31]

I tested it: Same behaviour.
Don't think its an hardware issue

Playtime is quite massive: 19884:00:04 ( > 2.25 years)
EDIT: I guess playtime is related: 19884 hours is short before 2^32 ticks
4294944000 : 19884 hours
4294967296 : 2^32

[boskid]

It freezes around transport line remerge requests processing becuase of the tick counter which gets close to the tick limit (uint32_t).

[FuzzyBug57]

So the good news is I win the bet with my son about the root cause of the problem.

Is there anyway to reset the tick counter (or similar) that would allow this file to continue to be played??

[san]

same as this one and contains a solution: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=72288&p=437786

[disentius]

Like san said, saving you a click or two

You can try importing the save file into a new one using the map editor "import save" feature. I have no idea if it will work or what might break but it's worth a try.

Your world will end up on another surface but from a gameplay perspective it won't change anything.

[FuzzyBug57]

Thanks for the suggestion:)! I was not able to find or figure out the "import save" feature mentioned, although I was able to make a zero run time copy using the "Convert Save" feature in the map editor (pic attached).

Unfortunately, while the new file starts showing zero run time, it still stops after about four minutes of running time:(.

I've never used the map editor before so perhaps I'm not approaching this correctly?!?

[sp55aa]

Like san said, saving you a click or two

You can try importing the save file into a new one using the map editor "import save" feature. I have no idea if it will work or what might break but it's worth a try.

Your world will end up on another surface but from a gameplay perspective it won't change anything.

Convert Save then start new game from that, still freeze

[eradicator]

Unfortunately, while the new file starts showing zero run time, it still stops after about four minutes of running time:(.

The game tracks two different times, map time and time played. As far as i know the raw map time is not shown in the gui, and is not resetted when importing as scenario.

I've never used the map editor before so perhaps I'm not approaching this correctly?!?

As far as I understand the old thread: You're supposed to "Map Editor" -> "New scenario" -> "Surface" Tab -> "Import save". Which would presumable import only the surface of your old map into a fresh map. I guess the surface index change might make some mods unhappy. Which might be possible to migitate by copy/pasting the imported surface to the main surface after importing the save, but that is just speculation on my part.

[sp55aa]

Unfortunately, while the new file starts showing zero run time, it still stops after about four minutes of running time:(.

The game tracks two different times, map time and time played. As far as i know the raw map time is not shown in the gui, and is not resetted when importing as scenario.

I've never used the map editor before so perhaps I'm not approaching this correctly?!?

As far as I understand the old thread: You're supposed to "Map Editor" -> "New scenario" -> "Surface" Tab -> "Import save". Which would presumable import only the surface of your old map into a fresh map. I guess the surface index change might make some mods unhappy. Which might be possible to migitate by copy/pasting the imported surface to the main surface after importing the save, but that is just speculation on my part.

it works, with some problem:
1. research progress lost
2. achievement disabled
3. player inventory and armor lost
4. import save need 10G+ memory
5. start new game from scenario start with 1.2 ups, need wait about 2 minutes
6. need run command in console:

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/c game.player.teleport({0,0},game.surfaces['imported-nauvis-1'])

[Silari]

it works, with some problem:
1. research progress lost
2. achievement disabled
3. player inventory and armor lost
4. import save need 10G+ memory
5. start new game from scenario start with 1.2 ups, need wait about 2 minutes
6. need run command in console:

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/c game.player.teleport({0,0},game.surfaces['imported-nauvis-1'])

1. You can use the Editor to give you back your techs, pretty sure.

2. If you haven't gotten all the achievements you can on this map after 2 years, you probably weren't going to anytime soon. Using commands to edit the game always disables the achievements.

3. Prolly too late now but the easy workaround would be to move all your stuff into chests before the import, so you could just pick it back up after.

[FuzzyBug57]

Woohoo, I am up and running again !

Thanks SO MUCH for all the expert help with this! I could not have done it with out the help provided here.

It will take a little while to recover the flying robot speed and mining productivity boosts I lost to get each of my science kit facilities back up to their production goal rate of 1000 pcs/min, but I have another 19,964 hours to work on that, and now that I have all my trains running again everything seems to be running smoothly, so I'm sure things will be back in shape before long.

[sp55aa]

Woohoo, I am up and running again !

Thanks SO MUCH for all the expert help with this! I could not have done it with out the help provided here.

It will take a little while to recover the flying robot speed and mining productivity boosts I lost to get each of my science kit facilities back up to their production goal rate of 1000 pcs/min, but I have another 19,964 hours to work on that, and now that I have all my trains running again everything seems to be running smoothly, so I'm sure things will be back in shape before long.

you can restore your research progress in editor:
T open research, shift click to research any tech you researched. infinite research can click multiple times.
and don't abuse it, have fun!

[FuzzyBug57]

Thanks for the tip sp55aa . I think I'll earn back what I'm still missing the "hard" way as that will keep me entertained for a while. I had lots of science kits stockpiled when I hit the tick limit so it was pretty easy to restore all the important stuff. More later

[sp55aa]

found new method, survived. just remove all transport belts, underground belts, spliters.
you can do this in editor mode (by /editor command, twice back to normal mode)

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but still not playable, after I build new transport belts with items, game freezed.