[MOD 0.17] Industrial Revolution

[nosports]

- A chromed winged Racing Monowheel, faster than any other vehicle that isn't a choo choo.

yeah

I now have a reason to prop up my chromage....

Currently fighting biters more..... but still

[nog]

Care to explain why this instead of the exact opposite? I was hoping for nearby scanning (and also recall asking for that) :/

So I am.

[Deadlock989]

Care to explain why

No, I don't.

Edited to add: have decided not to update the mod this weekend after all. I'll do it some time after the next Factorio stable release. Will be spending my free time this weekend doing some baking and playing other games.

[chrisdec]

hello,
i would like to know iff this mod is compatible with Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders?

[ukezi]

I'll do it some time after the next Factorio stable release. Will be spending my free time this weekend doing some baking and playing other games.

As you don't allow PM anymore I have to ask here:

Hi.
I would like to make and publish a few mods that have (optional) dependencies on your IR. Mainly a fuel processing mod that would profit from using your crushers. I will not redistribute any asserts of yours, maximally reference them from your mod. Also I would use some of your materials and categories for recipes. Is that OK with you?
Regards,
ukezi

[Deadlock989]

I will not redistribute any asserts of yours, maximally reference them from your mod. Also I would use some of your materials and categories for recipes. Is that OK with you?

That sounds fine.

[fishycat]

It's not so much that, more that we are part-way through a series of cosmetic updates and I would prefer to fix it all in one go when we know what's what. I am looking forward to the player/crafting GUI update because I think most of the IR icons will really shine on it, based on what the non-carbon ones look like in the new tooltips.

Absolutely understandable. And beside the carbony stuff, all the icons I saw so far fit in perfectly and it feels and looks right in combination with the new gui.

Another thing I forgot to mention since a while, also cosmetic, the alt-info on turrets when facing south are a little too far up, not sure if you can set them a little lower.

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[Deadlock989]

Another thing I forgot to mention since a while, also cosmetic, the alt-info on turrets when facing south are a little too far up, not sure if you can set them a little lower.

You can now.

[fishycat]

Ah perfect, so you already had it on your list. nvm then

[mrvn]

Two little things I noticed:

1) Stacked steel items (gears, tubes) look darker than the original making it looks like different items.
2) How does the electrical locomotive compare to the steam locomotive? Acceleration, wind resistance, weight, breaking force? The tooltip doesn't say. How does the comparison change with rocket or nuclear fuel? Is the electrical locomotive performing better or just have a better fuel source?

[ImShero]

Question about advanced cracking. How does the platinum consumption work. It says it returns 99% platinum. Does that mean there is a 1% consumption chance on any advanced cracking operation?

[Cribbit]

2) How does the electrical locomotive compare to the steam locomotive? Acceleration, wind resistance, weight, breaking force? The tooltip doesn't say. How does the comparison change with rocket or nuclear fuel? Is the electrical locomotive performing better or just have a better fuel source?

You fuel it with batteries, it turns charged batteries into uncharged. Iirc normal batteries are like coal and high cap batteries are like solid fuel. No option for anything faster. Hopefully the tooltip update makes it possible to expose that better - even for normal fuel trains I've always been annoyed that the train itself doesn't tell you what the differences in fuels are.

Question about advanced cracking. How does the platinum consumption work. It says it returns 99% platinum. Does that mean there is a 1% consumption chance on any advanced cracking operation?

Yes. Same thing for charging batteries.

[Stargateur]

Error on startup with hardened pipe:

- Hardened pipes 0.17.2
- Industrial Revolution 1.0.6
- Industrial Revolution: Language Pack 1.0.8
- base 0.17.74

Error at loading: `Error while loading recipe prototype "ion-probe" (recipe): Difficulty normal: Value must be a string in property tree ` [Full log](https://pastebin.com/5J1RGE1h)

Author of hardened pipes already look into and conclude there are some tipo error on industrial revolution side see [here](https://mods.factorio.com/mod/hardened_ ... 000c98e418)

[Pi-C]

Error on startup with hardened pipe:

- Hardened pipes 0.17.2
- Industrial Revolution 1.0.6
- Industrial Revolution: Language Pack 1.0.8
- base 0.17.74

Error at loading: `Error while loading recipe prototype "ion-probe" (recipe): Difficulty normal: Value must be a string in property tree ` [Full log](https://pastebin.com/5J1RGE1h)

@Deadlock989: Sorry for the noise! I've cleaned up a bit on my end, and the game starts again. (I don't see, though, why the bug only occurred if IR was installed together with the language pack -- even if the default locale was used.)

[Deadlock989]

@Deadlock989: Sorry for the noise! I've cleaned up a bit on my end, and the game starts again. (I don't see, though, why the bug only occurred if IR was installed together with the language pack -- even if the default locale was used.)

Probably because loading order is actually arbitrary. A-Z is a good "guess", but loading order can be any order, depending on what collection of mods are installed. If you had some variable with completely global scope called "item" initialised by your mod, it would only trigger the error from the typo in IR if your mod loaded before IR. The language pack could have triggered that load order. Don't ask me how it works, I don't know, but I've seen similar issues occur, where Alien Biomes would load either before or after IR because of the presence or not of some completely unrelated third party QOL mod with a name in the second half of the alphabet.

I will fix the typos later.

[Pi-C]

@Deadlock989: Sorry for the noise! I've cleaned up a bit on my end, and the game starts again. (I don't see, though, why the bug only occurred if IR was installed together with the language pack -- even if the default locale was used.)

Probably because loading order is actually arbitrary. A-Z is a good "guess", but loading order can be any order, depending on what collection of mods are installed. If you had some variable with completely global scope called "item" initialised by your mod, it would only trigger the error from the typo in IR if your mod loaded before IR. The language pack could have triggered that load order. Don't ask me how it works, I don't know, but I've seen similar issues occur, where Alien Biomes would load either before or after IR because of the presence or not of some completely unrelated third party QOL mod with a name in the second half of the alphabet.

Thanks for the explanation! I actually did use "item" variable with global scope (fixed now), and my mod was loaded before IR.

I will fix the typos later.

Great!

[enchant]

I tried IR back when it first came out. After playing a couple non-IR games, I'd like to continue with my original IR save. I've disabled the conflicting mods (bobs, squeak-thru, etc.) and re-enabled IR. However, when I load my game back in, I get a lot of failures that generally point to a missing mod, conflicting mod or missing library. Is there some way to debug this that I'm unaware of? Thanks.

[jamesthe1st]

I tried IR back when it first came out. After playing a couple non-IR games, I'd like to continue with my original IR save. I've disabled the conflicting mods (bobs, squeak-thru, etc.) and re-enabled IR. However, when I load my game back in, I get a lot of failures that generally point to a missing mod, conflicting mod or missing library. Is there some way to debug this that I'm unaware of? Thanks.

Don't worry about that, the disassembly system was changed to a scarping system, so that's why all those recipes changed.

[Dutchman]

Hey Deadlock. Just wanted to pop my head in and say thank you for the mod. My partner and I got a lot of fun hours out of it, and it's nice to have more challenges than the vanilla experience without devolving into a meaningless rainbow of upgrades.

I noticed you have given conflicting feelings on adding functionality and uses to the last tier of materials, and discontinuing your work on the mod. Could you maybe give us some idea of if there are still any future plans beyond 1.0.7?

Thank you again for your work.

[mrvn]

2) How does the electrical locomotive compare to the steam locomotive? Acceleration, wind resistance, weight, breaking force? The tooltip doesn't say. How does the comparison change with rocket or nuclear fuel? Is the electrical locomotive performing better or just have a better fuel source?

You fuel it with batteries, it turns charged batteries into uncharged. Iirc normal batteries are like coal and high cap batteries are like solid fuel. No option for anything faster. Hopefully the tooltip update makes it possible to expose that better - even for normal fuel trains I've always been annoyed that the train itself doesn't tell you what the differences in fuels are.

That means electrical trains will be inferior to normal trains by a lot once you get rocket fuel / nuclear fuel. But in between driving trains on solar alone is a bonus. There should be a nuclear battery that you can reprocess instead of charge or electric trains could simply accept nuclear fuel cells and return spend fuel cells. The difference between 120% acceleration and 200% is just too big to keep electric trains otherwise.