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Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:34 am

Sorry to be a pain in the ass. What are you using to make the sprites? Any chance to get a look at the models so maybe someone else can add some lights?
I dont think its possible, but anyone can open the files in the mod and try to make it from the sprites there
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otakushowboat wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:32 pm
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Try updating everything one last time we replaced all the mod migration this time
That seems to have done the trick. All recipes seem to be showing up now.

Thanks for all the hard work.
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?

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immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?
The mod list is on my stream schedule page on my website. The link to the page on my Twitch channel is in the About pane, under the PC parts list. Or just click my name here on the forum, hit the "visit website" link, and navigate to the stream schedule page. Reminds me I need to add the three mods I just added for today onto the list.

I haven't yet built anything specific to crude oil yet, but there are various options, such as tar to crude recipe with fawogae-based tar, renewably-sourced drilling fluid recipes, bio-based aromatics (fawogae + ralesia) + tailings + water into crude, steam, and olefins, and bio-based aromatics and bio-based syngas into crude, to name a few.

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otakushowboat wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:12 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?
The mod list is on my stream schedule page on my website. The link to the page on my Twitch channel is in the About pane, under the PC parts list. Or just click my name here on the forum, hit the "visit website" link, and navigate to the stream schedule page. Reminds me I need to add the three mods I just added for today onto the list.

I haven't yet built anything specific to crude oil yet, but there are various options, such as tar to crude recipe with fawogae-based tar, renewably-sourced drilling fluid recipes, bio-based aromatics (fawogae + ralesia) + tailings + water into crude, steam, and olefins, and bio-based aromatics and bio-based syngas into crude, to name a few.
i made a 1200MW plant that runs on 200 crude 563 tar and 38 coal /s
that is why i was asking

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otakushowboat wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:12 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?
The mod list is on my stream schedule page on my website. The link to the page on my Twitch channel is in the About pane, under the PC parts list. Or just click my name here on the forum, hit the "visit website" link, and navigate to the stream schedule page. Reminds me I need to add the three mods I just added for today onto the list.

I haven't yet built anything specific to crude oil yet, but there are various options, such as tar to crude recipe with fawogae-based tar, renewably-sourced drilling fluid recipes, bio-based aromatics (fawogae + ralesia) + tailings + water into crude, steam, and olefins, and bio-based aromatics and bio-based syngas into crude, to name a few.
My favorite Crude Oil chain is:

Stone (from sand extractor or borer) => Tar (quenching) => Coal Gas (optionally with the oxygen recipe) => SynGas
Tar => Creosote => Aromatics
Syngas + Aromatics => Crude Oil

Needs relatively few machines (compared to bio-based chains), and you can use productivity modules in each step. You get like 5 different waste products though, but that's PyMods :).

Makes 1000 Crude/s from 50 Stone/s (which is 17 Iron Stick/s or 6.1 Iron Plate/s) with max prod. modules.

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ShadowGlass wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:09 am
otakushowboat wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:12 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?
The mod list is on my stream schedule page on my website. The link to the page on my Twitch channel is in the About pane, under the PC parts list. Or just click my name here on the forum, hit the "visit website" link, and navigate to the stream schedule page. Reminds me I need to add the three mods I just added for today onto the list.

I haven't yet built anything specific to crude oil yet, but there are various options, such as tar to crude recipe with fawogae-based tar, renewably-sourced drilling fluid recipes, bio-based aromatics (fawogae + ralesia) + tailings + water into crude, steam, and olefins, and bio-based aromatics and bio-based syngas into crude, to name a few.
My favorite Crude Oil chain is:

Stone (from sand extractor or borer) => Tar (quenching) => Coal Gas (optionally with the oxygen recipe) => SynGas
Tar => Creosote => Aromatics
Syngas + Aromatics => Crude Oil

Needs relatively few machines (compared to bio-based chains), and you can use productivity modules in each step. You get like 5 different waste products though, but that's PyMods :).

Makes 1000 Crude/s from 50 Stone/s (which is 17 Iron Stick/s or 6.1 Iron Plate/s) with max prod. modules.
ill look into it it is for my power plant so H2 waste is welcome
tailings too since it is main nexelite source atm

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mrvn wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:06 pm
Most (raw fiber) recipes for the Kicalk plantation require an extra lamp. That makes me think they should glow in the dark when working.
Did you mean glow like the vanilla centrifuges? Here's the relevant bit of centrifuge's entity definition that makes it glow when working:

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    working_visualisations =
    {
      {
        effect = "uranium-glow", -- changes alpha based on energy source light intensity
        light = {intensity = 0.6, size = 9.9, shift = {0.0, 0.0}, color = {r = 0.0, g = 1.0, b = 0.0}}
      }
    },
and the wiki page: https://wiki.factorio.com/Types/WorkingVisualisation

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ohh nice, o shall take a look
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Yes zx64, that's exactly what I mean. I guess in this case the color should be white. Maybe some of the plants reflection mixed in.

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otakushowboat wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:12 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm
sorry to bother you again but still i cant see the mod list

also u said in the stream u have a build that generates crude oil how does it work?
The mod list is on my stream schedule page on my website. The link to the page on my Twitch channel is in the About pane, under the PC parts list. Or just click my name here on the forum, hit the "visit website" link, and navigate to the stream schedule page. Reminds me I need to add the three mods I just added for today onto the list.

I haven't yet built anything specific to crude oil yet, but there are various options, such as tar to crude recipe with fawogae-based tar, renewably-sourced drilling fluid recipes, bio-based aromatics (fawogae + ralesia) + tailings + water into crude, steam, and olefins, and bio-based aromatics and bio-based syngas into crude, to name a few.
i found something else that you need to mine or use ground borers , Mo ore u need it here and there for intermediaries even if u get Mo plated vis PA,
if it wasn t for the ground borer it would be mine only like rare earth

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Can you make the tier 3 modules require tier 4 circuits instead of tier 2 circuits?

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its a good idea.
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The descriptions achievements related to circuit production use the vanilla circuit names.

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I don't know if it's intentional, but you essentially baned all vanilla modules in pyht's buildings by disallowing pollution and consumption module effects.

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tiriscef wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:01 pm
I don't know if it's intentional, but you essentially baned all vanilla modules in pyht's buildings by disallowing pollution and consumption module effects.
it wasnt and im already working on fixing it.

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Hey Pyanodon,

Really love your mod; I recently started my third run with it. I also like the balancing that's happened since 0.16, it makes the mod a whole lot more UPS-friendly :D

I did notice that electronic components now require their predecessor, like resistor 2 requires resistor 1 in the recipe. Is there a reason for that? It doesn't really make sense to me, after all, miniaturization of electronics made all predecessors completely obsolete. Modern chips outperform vacuum tubes in every single way, so why have them and other components as a requirement to build modern circuits? (I don't see any big, crude resistors on my CPU for example...)

In the same vein, have you considered adding recipes to convert Circuit Board 2 into Circuit Board 1, et cetera? E.a. downgrading them? After all, there's no function that a crude circuit can perform, that a more modern circuit wouldn't be able to do better and at lower cost. It'd be really great if after spending so much time building a whole factory to get the next level of circuitry, you essentially make the old circuit boards obsolete, like happened in real life.

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LuxArdens wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:27 pm
Hey Pyanodon,

Really love your mod; I recently started my third run with it. I also like the balancing that's happened since 0.16, it makes the mod a whole lot more UPS-friendly :D

I did notice that electronic components now require their predecessor, like resistor 2 requires resistor 1 in the recipe. Is there a reason for that? It doesn't really make sense to me, after all, miniaturization of electronics made all predecessors completely obsolete. Modern chips outperform vacuum tubes in every single way, so why have them and other components as a requirement to build modern circuits? (I don't see any big, crude resistors on my CPU for example...)

In the same vein, have you considered adding recipes to convert Circuit Board 2 into Circuit Board 1, et cetera? E.a. downgrading them? After all, there's no function that a crude circuit can perform, that a more modern circuit wouldn't be able to do better and at lower cost. It'd be really great if after spending so much time building a whole factory to get the next level of circuitry, you essentially make the old circuit boards obsolete, like happened in real life.

Cheers!
makeing resistors 2 from 1 is like not realists and i agree it is not needed
makeing circuits from the predecesor is probably i thing from vanilla
yes it would be nice to be able to make lower tech circuis from uppeer tier ones

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if people are looking for realism, are in the wrong game. Factorio is not a simulator.
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pyanodon wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 pm
if people are looking for realism, are in the wrong game. Factorio is not a simulator.
Did you check the number of resistors, transistors, cpus, ... vs the number of boards produced? Do I get 1/2 transistor on each board?

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like i care. These items are a representation, not how real things are. Again, like i said before, its not a realistic game.

Mod yourself a perfect realistic circuit chain and then complain why people dont play it or complain about have to craft 50 resistors each board.
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