[0.17.39] Mods with icon beside their name not sorted correctly

[Pi-C]

As suggested by Dominik, I'll post this as a bug report:

Mods that have an icon next to their name are listed after the alphabetically sorted mods in mod settings menus and in the mods manager:

View of incorrectly sorted mod under mod settings

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View of incorrectly sorted mod in mods manager

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Among the mods I'd installed, only Rocket-Silo Construction had icons as part of the name. So I figured I'd try to install all other mods released by its author. This is what the new list in the mods manager looks like:

View of many incorrectly sorted mods in mods manager

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Having Big-Monsters and Explosive Biters below the others seems awkward but can be explained by the icon before the name. When there's only an icon after the name, however, it looks wrong. Anyway, seems like these mods can't be sorted correctly because the names contain rich text.

[Rseding91]

Thanks for the report however as the primary person who manages mods and works on the features put in for mods I'm going to say: play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I'm not going to implement some multiple hundreds of lines of code to handle sorting things like this. If mods put rich text bull shit in their mod names then they can deal with the fallout. Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

[MasterBuilder]

I'm not going to implement some multiple hundreds of lines of code to handle sorting things like this. If mods put rich text bull shit in their mod names then they can deal with the fallout. Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

What about some middle-ground:
Strip the rich text / images / colors / etc out of the text and sort with that? Stripping out [] with regex shouldn't be too hard.

This would do a 'good enough' sort, esp. given that most images happen to be at the end of the name.


Alternatively, you could add another field to info.json for authors to put the clean name to be used for sorting. If omitted, it would just fall back to the current sort.

[Rseding91]

That's what I meant by 100s of lines of code to handle it.

[eradicator]

Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

Better kill it now before the plague spreads. Before it kicks us back into the 90's.

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[steinio]

Thanks for the report however as the primary person who manages mods and works on the features put in for mods I'm going to say: play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I'm not going to implement some multiple hundreds of lines of code to handle sorting things like this. If mods put rich text bull shit in their mod names then they can deal with the fallout. Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

I vote for disabling it for mod names.
It looks already awful and it got just started.
Imagine whole mod names consisting only of this icons...

[fishycat]

Thanks for the report however as the primary person who manages mods and works on the features put in for mods I'm going to say: play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I'm not going to implement some multiple hundreds of lines of code to handle sorting things like this. If mods put rich text bull shit in their mod names then they can deal with the fallout. Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

I vote for disabling it for mod names.
It looks already awful and it got just started.
Imagine whole mod names consisting only of this icons...

+1

[orzelek]

I was surprised after noticing that mod list is going rainbow/picture style.
Another vote to remove rich text from mod names.

[Pi-C]

Better kill it now before the plague spreads. Before it kicks us back into the 90's.

That picture must be fake: In the 90s, websites used <marquee>, <blink>, and flashing backgrounds!

About rich text in mod names: I think it's all about the right measure. Used sparingly, it could be used to some effect -- but there is a real danger that such a feature will be abused, and overused. Actually, rich text in mod names would only make sense (because that is the only places where it would be seen) in the mod manager/mod settings menus, right? But there, it breaks stuff, namely sorting. So I'm not sure how to argue for keeping it enabled …

[Deadlock989]

Yeah, ban it. It's ugly af.

[Klonan]

Or I can disable it for mod names to be sure people don't do it.

+1

[mexmer]

+2 for disabling RT

[ZwerOxotnik]

examples of mod names

Was:
Diálogos

Now:
\:speech_left\: Diálogos

Will:
Diálogos

And better:
Diálogos


I deliberately made this example in another foreign language, because it makes sense to compare

• Dialogs
• Diálogos
• Диалоги
• Երկխոսություն

Mod developers can't translate mod names in each language, so it is a simple solution to transfer contextual information without translation.

Consequences

Consequences in several foreign languages: https://imgur.com/a/rU8IkSr (and also look at sorting)

(I don't look at text of mod name I look at context of mod name, because for me easier to find a mod by the way. I can't memorize all names of mods)

I want use rich text for localization.
If some mod developer did the mistake we can just to write to him if we really want it:

• ~"Hey, your rich text breaks mods sorting in the mod list. Please, change your rich text or to make it better."
• or simpler to send to him a link on this topic
• or (for example) to create a special link/information for mod developers, players about rich text in the mod list or somewhere else

And also

Some mod developers that did it they probably knew about it. I knew about it. I did not get any reaction about it before v0.17.42.

[eradicator]

Have you tried translating your mod name with a locale.cfg?

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[mod-name]
your-mod-name=translated-mod-name

[mod-description]
your-mod-name=translated-mod-description

[ZwerOxotnik]

I will show you fixing

Before

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[mod-name]
Rocket-Silo-Construction=[color=1,1,1]Rocket-Silo Construction[/color] [item=rocket-silo]

Uh. The grey text on the black background is litle bit uncomfortable. (see the screenshots)

After

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[mod-name]
Rocket-Silo-Construction=Rocket-Silo Construction [item=rocket-silo]

Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/mrg4sZO

[eradicator]

If you want the font contrast fixed you should submit a bug report instead of abusing rich text. That way it's fixed for everybody.

[ZwerOxotnik]

Do we need to remove the feature a result of a mod developer mistake?

[Deadlock989]

Do we need to remove the feature a result of a mod developer mistake?

Apparently.

[eradicator]

Do we need to remove the feature a result of a mod developer mistake?

I assume it was removed to preserve consistently readable menus for everyone.

[ZwerOxotnik]

I assume it was removed to preserve consistently readable menus for everyone.

Players write bug reports to me when I made a mistake in my mod, but no one did in this case.