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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Optera » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:17 pm

How do you apply this css mod?

Edit: Nvm I figured it out.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Koub » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:21 pm

The forum should be user friendly by default. One shouldn't need programming skills to hack the forum's CSS for proper browsing. I hope this fixed width thing will be adressed, not left as "DIY".
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Tekky » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 pm

Is this a general issue of phpBB or an issue specific to the Factorio forums?
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Oktokolo » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:48 pm

Koub wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:21 pm
The forum should be user friendly by default. One shouldn't need programming skills to hack the forum's CSS for proper browsing. I hope this fixed width thing will be adressed, not left as "DIY".
It is quite common to limit the maximum length of lines of text to improve readability.
It is the reason wich lead to the common two columns of text on scientific research papers or multiple columns of text in news papers (column width correlates with font size).
Wikipedia: Line length

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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Jap2.0 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:05 pm

Oktokolo wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:48 pm
Koub wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:21 pm
The forum should be user friendly by default. One shouldn't need programming skills to hack the forum's CSS for proper browsing. I hope this fixed width thing will be adressed, not left as "DIY".
It is quite common to limit the maximum length of lines of text to improve readability.
It is the reason wich lead to the common two columns of text on scientific research papers or multiple columns of text in news papers (column width correlates with font size).
Wikipedia: Line length
Sue, but newspapers aren't horizontal with only the middle 40-85% being used. Additionally, the same article you quoted says that wider columns are better for skimming text, and from personal experience if you actually use the whole screen you can fit more on it (less scrolling, quicker skimming, etc.) and it generally looks nicer.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Mr. Tact » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:01 pm

Optera wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:17 pm
How do you apply this css mod?

Edit: Nvm I figured it out.
Care to share?
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by bobingabout » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:30 pm

bobingabout wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:01 pm
I absolutely hate the new forum update for one main reason.

It doesn't fill the width of my ultra wide screen.
Please fix.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by dog80 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:02 am

why does "Quick Links" not open on :hover ==== 11reeeeeeeee

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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by foodfactorio » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:02 am

hi, the best thing about the change, is that the text, cursor "and" mouse pointer are now easy to see, at least for me.

at first, no icons appeared, but i think its because the website theme now uses "web-fonts" instead, so if anyone has ublock origin and chrome, you might need to enable webfonts for this site, as i did that and the site seems to work ok again.

image below: (had to draw an arrow to show where the mouse cursor appears, since screenshots dont usually capture it) but it works :)
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Optera » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 am

Mr. Tact wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:01 pm
Optera wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:17 pm
How do you apply this css mod?

Edit: Nvm I figured it out.
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For Firefox: https://superuser.com/questions/318912/ ... ontent-css
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by keyboardhack » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:33 am

To begin with i disliked the redesign. Not because it looked bad(it looks great) but because it moved functionality away from me. I now had to click twice to get to the "Your posts" or "New posts" link which was very annoying. With those links being added back again i really can't complain.
Some long term issues with the site has been fixed with this redesign and the functionality is seemingly the same so i am happy :D
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by foodfactorio » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:38 am

oh i didnt know those links had been removed before, i guess they must have come back when i first took the screenshot.
yep, as it is now it seems cool
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by mexmer » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:03 am

foodfactorio wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:38 am
oh i didnt know those links had been removed before, i guess they must have come back when i first took the screenshot.
yep, as it is now it seems cool
yes those were missing before, that was my major complaint also (need to click quicklinks then proper one), now when they are besides quick links, i'm happy,, i can live with new design, can't say i like it, but eventually i will get used to it.

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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Koub » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:13 am

There's a side effect of the dark background : some textrs can't be seen, typically some column titles. As an example, in the notifications settings :
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by MasterBuilder » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:23 am

Looking at the changes here just gives me an uncanny feeling. It's like all the colors have changed a tiny bit; enough to be 'wrong' but not enough for me to pick out the differences.

There are only a few things that I do notice that really bug me:
1: The red is gone. Unread things used to be red and it was east to tell at a glance what was unread.
Now the unread icons/colors are the same orange as post title and everything else. It blends in and is nigh impossible to see at a glance now. I want my red back.

2: The fixed width things. This is driving me nuts but I don't feel like locally overriding CSS is a good permanent solution either.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Bauer » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:27 am

MasterBuilder wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:23 am
1: The red is gone. Unread things used to be red and it was east to tell at a glance what was unread.
Now the unread icons/colors are the same orange as post title and everything else. It blends in and is nigh impossible to see at a glance now. I want my red back.
+1
Can't remember if white or orange is read or unread. Doesn't fit to any colour scheme. No intuition. Murphy strikes back, so my first guess is always wrong. It's because the title and the info below the title have the same 2 colours. Does is mean read or unread if the title has the same colour as the icon? *head explodes*

All else is perfectly fine (or at least ok). :-)

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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by fishycat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:54 am

A nice addition to the Quick links would be the wiki page.
Otherwise I'm pretty happy now with width and the other little adjustments, like jump to last post thingy.

Is the width adjustment also planned for the mods page?

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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Koub » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:53 am

Another lost feature/bug with new layout : when browsing topics, on the topic list, there is no more icon for moderators to see if there is a topic/post awaiting moderation (I suspect It will be the same with reported posts).
An example in attachment.


Is it possible to restore this ? it was a very useful feature, now I have to explicitely browse the moderation control panel to see if I've missed some post.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by Bilka » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:43 am

Koub wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:53 am
Another lost feature/bug with new layout : when browsing topics, on the topic list, there is no more icon for moderators to see if there is a topic/post awaiting moderation (I suspect It will be the same with reported posts).
I thought the same at first, but the questionmark that is shown behind the post title is the new icon, you can even see it in your image :) In my opinion it should be changed to be another color/icon so that it is more clear that it's not part of the topic title.
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Re: Today's forum skin update

Post by mexmer » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:37 pm

Bilka wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:43 am
Koub wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:53 am
Another lost feature/bug with new layout : when browsing topics, on the topic list, there is no more icon for moderators to see if there is a topic/post awaiting moderation (I suspect It will be the same with reported posts).
I thought the same at first, but the questionmark that is shown behind the post title is the new icon, you can even see it in your image :) In my opinion it should be changed to be another color/icon so that it is more clear that it's not part of the topic title.
i see issue with that question mark, alhough there is a "space" between title and question mark, it's not visually apparent, that question mark is not part of title.

changing color (of question mark), might help, but i suggest also moving it before title.

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