pY Coal Processing - Discussion

[kain184]

hello i am not sure if this is the correct place to post this. i am having an issue on factorio version 16.6 and coal processing ver 1.0.6 the steam created from the power house system does not run the steam engines from the vanilla mechanics. the steam does not seem to be cross mod compatible and i am not sure as to why. can anyone help me or is this a bug. or intended game-play?

[chrisdec]

hello i am not sure if this is the correct place to post this. i am having an issue on factorio version 16.6 and coal processing ver 1.0.6 the steam created from the power house system does not run the steam engines from the vanilla mechanics. the steam does not seem to be cross mod compatible and i am not sure as to why. can anyone help me or is this a bug. or intended game-play?

have you looked at the steam temperature from the power house ?
vanilla steam engines needs 165 degrees steam

[kain184]

why would that be different? seems a little weird. and what would i use to increase the temp?

[Vetrosian]

With how often the steam question comes up, I even got confused myself the first time I encountered it, it may be worth renaming it something like "Mild Steam" or "Residual Steam" assuming that doing so doesn't involve a massive amount of coding.

why would that be different? seems a little weird. and what would i use to increase the temp?

I believe the design is meant to mimic real life systems, where it's more energy efficient to cool and reheat the same steam rather than constantly pumping in cold seawater to heat from 0. The main options I've seen are to either vent the stuff, or use cooling towers (I prefer the latter as it reduces the water demand.)

[tehfreek]

Is there a reason why I need to have bobores and bobplates enabled when all I want is bobtech and bobvehicleequipment?

[Hellatze]

will pyanadon high tech receive buff in future ?

[factorioguy111]

MOD UPDATED. Please update your mod.

is tar viscous like oil or is it treated like normal liquids or gasses?

asking because of pipe flow speed (e.g. plastic vs bronze). using all bob's with all your mods

[pyanodon]

MOD UPDATED. Please update your mod.

is tar viscous like oil or is it treated like normal liquids or gasses?

asking because of pipe flow speed (e.g. plastic vs bronze). using all bob's with all your mods

all fluids are the same in factorio liquids or gases

[FlyHigh]

I've been playing an older version of this mod (v. 1.0.2) and finding it awesome. I've gone to bed way too late frustrated at the game because I have too much of something and not enough of something else Thanks!

PS. I'm playing the older version because I don't like to keep creating new maps and the newer versions introduce new minable ores. I'm not a fan of that.

[CarlVSam]

It seems that the most recent update has introduced a problem that involves the mining of Raw Borax.

I know that the mining of this substance now requires the Borax Mine to be placed on a Borax deposit. However, the research needed for one of the items required to mine raw Borax - the Drill Heads - need the level 2 Science Packs. One of the sub-components used in the making of these packs though - the Optical Set - requires Boron Tri-oxide , which comes from the substances extracted and processed from Raw Borax.

How can I start the production of these level 2 Packs when I cannot extract one of the raw ingredients used to make them?

[kingarthur]

It seems that the most recent update has introduced a problem that involves the mining of Raw Borax.

I know that the mining of this substance now requires the Borax Mine to be placed on a Borax deposit. However, the research needed for one of the items required to mine raw Borax - the Drill Heads - need the level 2 Science Packs. One of the sub-components used in the making of these packs though - the Optical Set - requires Boron Tri-oxide , which comes from the substances extracted and processed from Raw Borax.

How can I start the production of these level 2 Packs when I cannot extract one of the raw ingredients used to make them?

because you need to use the borax mine and it doesn't need a drill head at all. nether in the construction or operation. its under coal processing and is a red/ level 1 only science.

[CarlVSam]

It seems that the most recent update has introduced a problem that involves the mining of Raw Borax.

I know that the mining of this substance now requires the Borax Mine to be placed on a Borax deposit. However, the research needed for one of the items required to mine raw Borax - the Drill Heads - need the level 2 Science Packs. One of the sub-components used in the making of these packs though - the Optical Set - requires Boron Tri-oxide , which comes from the substances extracted and processed from Raw Borax.

How can I start the production of these level 2 Packs when I cannot extract one of the raw ingredients used to make them?

because you need to use the borax mine and it doesn't need a drill head at all. nether in the construction or operation. its under coal processing and is a red/ level 1 only science.

I should have stated that I have the Borax Mine placed, and a SynGas line running into it. The Mine starts taking in the Gas, but it stops at around 102 units, and no Raw Borax is being generated.

I check the creation recipes for Raw Borax with FNEI, and two are listed. One requires the research of Coal Processing 2 technology (which requires level 2 Science,) and the other one requires Excavation 1 tech (which needs level 3 Science.) The level one recipe is nowhere to be found.

[kingarthur]

It seems that the most recent update has introduced a problem that involves the mining of Raw Borax.

I know that the mining of this substance now requires the Borax Mine to be placed on a Borax deposit. However, the research needed for one of the items required to mine raw Borax - the Drill Heads - need the level 2 Science Packs. One of the sub-components used in the making of these packs though - the Optical Set - requires Boron Tri-oxide , which comes from the substances extracted and processed from Raw Borax.

How can I start the production of these level 2 Packs when I cannot extract one of the raw ingredients used to make them?

because you need to use the borax mine and it doesn't need a drill head at all. nether in the construction or operation. its under coal processing and is a red/ level 1 only science.

I should have stated that I have the Borax Mine placed, and a SynGas line running into it. The Mine starts taking in the Gas, but it stops at around 102 units, and no Raw Borax is being generated.

I check the creation recipes for Raw Borax with FNEI, and two are listed. One requires the research of Coal Processing 2 technology (which requires level 2 Science,) and the other one requires Excavation 1 tech (which needs level 3 Science.) The level one recipe is nowhere to be found.

It works just like any other miner and spits its items out the front. If you haven't already turn on alt mode to see the arrow. If that doesn't work then post a save file if you can cause something's is broke

[CarlVSam]

It seems that the most recent update has introduced a problem that involves the mining of Raw Borax.

I know that the mining of this substance now requires the Borax Mine to be placed on a Borax deposit. However, the research needed for one of the items required to mine raw Borax - the Drill Heads - need the level 2 Science Packs. One of the sub-components used in the making of these packs though - the Optical Set - requires Boron Tri-oxide , which comes from the substances extracted and processed from Raw Borax.

How can I start the production of these level 2 Packs when I cannot extract one of the raw ingredients used to make them?

because you need to use the borax mine and it doesn't need a drill head at all. nether in the construction or operation. its under coal processing and is a red/ level 1 only science.

I should have stated that I have the Borax Mine placed, and a SynGas line running into it. The Mine starts taking in the Gas, but it stops at around 102 units, and no Raw Borax is being generated.

I check the creation recipes for Raw Borax with FNEI, and two are listed. One requires the research of Coal Processing 2 technology (which requires level 2 Science,) and the other one requires Excavation 1 tech (which needs level 3 Science.) The level one recipe is nowhere to be found.

It works just like any other miner and spits its items out the front. If you haven't already turn on alt mode to see the arrow. If that doesn't work then post a save file if you can cause something's is broke

Putting the belt next to the arrow worked - I did not realize that the extraction of the Borax was now like that of the regular miners (one used to have to use Inserters to extract the product before...)

[daydev]

Hi, pyanodon.

So I've run into the issue, that I think was mentioned here before, that FNEI is missing some of the recipes (e.g. Ralesia). I did some digging and discovered that the reason is that the missing recipes have more ingredients than the machines that are supposed to make them are declared to support in the ingredient_count in the prototype definition. Somehow it still works for the purposes of crafting itself, I'm not sure why, but FNEI thinks that the machine can't craft the recipe and so doesn't show it.

I don't know if you'd consider it a bug that you would fix, but I thought I'd let you know. Attached is the table of the 17 recipes that I found to have this inconsistency (across all of the Py mods).

Here's the table.

[aklesey1]

Some new info from Arch666Angel
Looks cool

I like this Bio stuff

[pyanodon]

Some new info from Arch666Angel
Looks cool

I like this Bio stuff

very nice..which i dont know whats it

[steinio]

cute but disgusting

[Dr_Killedalot]

Hi, pyanodon.

So I've run into the issue, that I think was mentioned here before, that FNEI is missing some of the recipes (e.g. Ralesia). I did some digging and discovered that the reason is that the missing recipes have more ingredients than the machines that are supposed to make them are declared to support in the ingredient_count in the prototype definition. Somehow it still works for the purposes of crafting itself, I'm not sure why, but FNEI thinks that the machine can't craft the recipe and so doesn't show it.

I don't know if you'd consider it a bug that you would fix, but I thought I'd let you know. Attached is the table of the 17 recipes that I found to have this inconsistency (across all of the Py mods).

Here's the table.

Yeah i made a report for this at FNEI`s mod Page , but it looks like the dev has become inactive :/

[daydev]

Yeah i made a report for this at FNEI`s mod Page , but it looks like the dev has become inactive :/

I would argue that FNEI is behaving correctly here, Py mods are "at fault" for declaring recipes with more ingredient that their machines are supposed to support. It's just that for some reason the ingredient count restriction is not actually enforced universally. It seems that the game only enforces the ingredient count restriction for select crafting categories, I did some testing, "crafting", "advanced-crafting", "centrifuging" are enforced, but "chemistry" is not, you can make a recipe with five ingredient and the chemical plant will happily craft it despite having ingredient_count = 4, and it's probably also not enforced for any modded categories.

Upd. I think I figured it out. It seems that fluid ingredients are not counted towards the ingredient_count limit, and FNEI doesn't take it into account. Well, anyway, I made a personal patch to make all of the Py mod recipes visible in FNEI, so it's all right.