[MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant

Jeroen D Stout · Post by **Jeroen D Stout** » Wed May 17, 2017 12:31 am

I believe the "building safety" for now replaces the entities to save them?

Unfortunately, they do not actually retain their wire information, which means they break their previous wiring.

I happen to have had to write this function for my own mod:

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local oldNeighbours = table.deepcopy(pole.neighbours);
		
pole.destroy()
pole = newPole
		
pole.disconnect_neighbour();
		
for connectType,neighbourGroup in pairs(oldNeighbours) do
	if connectType == "copper" then
		for k,v in pairs(neighbourGroup) do
			pole.pole.connect_neighbour(v);
		end
	elseif connectType == "red" then
		for k,v in pairs(neighbourGroup) do
			pole.pole.connect_neighbour({wire = defines.wire_type.red, target_entity = v});
		end
	elseif connectType == "green" then
		for k,v in pairs(neighbourGroup) do
			pole.pole.connect_neighbour({wire = defines.wire_type.green, target_entity = v});
		end
	end
end

This should be a quick fix now. What is the actual problem with the AI and where can I post to support the fix the devs need to make? It's *super* annoying to have rebuild poles.

EDIT: You'll need to require util:

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require "util"

It might actually be fun to have them only occasionally attack certain buildings. It's just the constant destruction of poles that is annoying.

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Wed May 17, 2017 1:39 am

Jeroen D Stout wrote:I believe the "building safety" for now replaces the entities to save them?

Yes, the code is what you are expecting.

The repo is up on github, the place you are looking for is
https://github.com/veden/Rampant/blob/m ... l.lua#L230

otherwise I can add the code for this later tonight.

Either way, thanks for bringing this up.

N3X15 · Post by **N3X15** » Sat May 20, 2017 9:19 pm

Getting some weird behaviour on Rampant 0.15.9 on Factorio 0.15.12 (headless server, Linux). Biters in distant areas (away from players) gather into weird crescent shapes and UPS starts to drop. I've had to enable Nocturnal to make the game somewhat playable.

Mods

The entire save, including mods and mod-settings.json, is here. All other settings aren't included because they're either default or include passwords.

Pictures of weirdness (over a week or so): http://imgur.com/a/X1iAk

My best guess as to what's happening is Factorio is trying to put the biters to sleep for performance, and Rampant is fighting with it, for some reason.

JohnDowson · Post by **JohnDowson** » Mon May 22, 2017 4:36 am

I had similar thing on 15.9. Thought it was because we installed Rampant long after the game start.

lost_RD · Post by **lost_RD** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:18 pm

I love this mod. It makes combat much more interesting.

CaptainHook · Post by **CaptainHook** » Tue May 23, 2017 6:21 pm

Since in 0.15.13 devs seem to have fixed the indestructible targeting bug you had mentioned, does now protecting rails from biters work properly, or do we have to wait for an update? btw love this mod, thanks for your effort.

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Wed May 24, 2017 1:23 am

N3X15 wrote: My best guess as to what's happening is Factorio is trying to put the biters to sleep for performance, and Rampant is fighting with it, for some reason.

I'm not sure what your issue was, I'm not seeing anything different or performance concerns.

N3X15 wrote:Getting some weird behaviour on Rampant 0.15.9 on Factorio 0.15.12 (headless server, Linux). Biters in distant areas (away from players) gather into weird crescent shapes and UPS starts to drop. I've had to enable Nocturnal to make the game somewhat playable.

The crescent thing as far as I can tell is something that happens in the vanilla game regardless of Rampant.

lost_RD wrote:I love this mod. It makes combat much more interesting.

Glad you like it, if you have any suggestions or issues please let me know.

CaptainHook wrote:Since in 0.15.13 devs seem to have fixed the indestructible targeting bug you had mentioned, does now protecting rails from biters work properly, or do we have to wait for an update? btw love this mod, thanks for your effort.

I have to make some changes and publish a new build. I'm glad you are enjoying it.

Carnivale · Post by **Carnivale** » Fri May 26, 2017 4:50 pm

Hey.

I really love playing with Rampant enabled and I'm looking forward to the future plans!

While moments like the one in the picture below are epic it also starts to hit the performance. I'm not 100% sure it's all because of Rampant, but I've never seen anything like it before in vanilla or Natural Evolution Enemies. The biters in the picture are spawning because my pollution reaches them, but they never attack since they're too far away from my base and on the other side of the lake. Rampant has a Recycling Biters -feature. Should that take care of these humongous biter crowds, is the feature not supposed to affect these kind of situations or perhaps Natural Evolution is preventing it? I wouldn't mind about so many biters, I would actually prefer if they all attacked my base in an armageddon style fashion, but my ups starts to suffer from these kinds of crowds all around the map. Any idea why there are so many biters?

Picture

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Fri May 26, 2017 4:57 pm

Glad to hear you enjoy the mod.

The recycling in the current version isn't robust enough to catch the groups you are seeing.

I have a version that should be out within a day or two that should be better about the cleanup in addition to some more performance optimizations.

TheSAguy · Post by **TheSAguy** » Fri May 26, 2017 8:19 pm

Carnivale wrote:Hey.

I really love playing with Rampant enabled and I'm looking forward to the future plans!

While moments like the one in the picture below are epic it also starts to hit the performance. I'm not 100% sure it's all because of Rampant, but I've never seen anything like it before in vanilla or Natural Evolution Enemies. The biters in the picture are spawning because my pollution reaches them, but they never attack since they're too far away from my base and on the other side of the lake. Rampant has a Recycling Biters -feature. Should that take care of these humongous biter crowds, is the feature not supposed to affect these kind of situations or perhaps Natural Evolution is preventing it? I wouldn't mind about so many biters, I would actually prefer if they all attacked my base in an armageddon style fashion, but my ups starts to suffer from these kinds of crowds all around the map. Any idea why there are so many biters?

Picture

Now that is a lot of Biters

Natural Evolution does increase the number of units a spawner can have by a lot, so if they don't attack, they would probably start accumulating like in this picture.

Try and take them some fish as a peace offering....

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Sat May 27, 2017 2:46 am

The latest version should better address the clustering issue, if it doesn't please let me know.

Ranakastrasz · Post by **Ranakastrasz** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:54 pm

I can't seem to get the safe modifier to work. I enabled the mod settings for it, started an existing game, and placed a new rail, wasn't invulernable.

Given it is "Map Bound" I suppose it might require a new game, but I can't see why it should.

Edit: It appears to require a new game. Is there a reason you cannot scan the map for all the existing matching entities and protect/deprotect them?

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:30 pm

Ranakastrasz wrote:I can't seem to get the safe modifier to work. I enabled the mod settings for it, started an existing game, and placed a new rail, wasn't invulernable.

Given it is "Map Bound" I suppose it might require a new game, but I can't see why it should.

Edit: It appears to require a new game. Is there a reason you cannot scan the map for all the existing matching entities and protect/deprotect them?

With existing saved games, map settings have to be configured after the save has been loaded and the settings will stay in the saved game with the next time it saves.

Ranakastrasz · Post by **Ranakastrasz** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:35 pm

Veden wrote:
Ranakastrasz wrote:I can't seem to get the safe modifier to work. I enabled the mod settings for it, started an existing game, and placed a new rail, wasn't invulernable.

Given it is "Map Bound" I suppose it might require a new game, but I can't see why it should.

Edit: It appears to require a new game. Is there a reason you cannot scan the map for all the existing matching entities and protect/deprotect them?
With existing saved games, map settings have to be configured after the save has been loaded and the settings will stay in the saved game with the next time it saves.

Wut?
Sooo... Mod settings are linked to saved games and you have to load, change settings and reload to get them to work? I suppose that makes sense. Although adding a new mod should use global settings I think.

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:37 pm

Ranakastrasz wrote:
Veden wrote:
Ranakastrasz wrote:I can't seem to get the safe modifier to work. I enabled the mod settings for it, started an existing game, and placed a new rail, wasn't invulernable.

Given it is "Map Bound" I suppose it might require a new game, but I can't see why it should.

Edit: It appears to require a new game. Is there a reason you cannot scan the map for all the existing matching entities and protect/deprotect them?
With existing saved games, map settings have to be configured after the save has been loaded and the settings will stay in the saved game with the next time it saves.
Wut?
Sooo... Mod settings are linked to saved games and you have to load, change settings and reload to get them to work? I suppose that makes sense. Although adding a new mod should use global settings I think.

no, just load and make the changes, but if you don't save the game before quitting they wont stick.

start factorio -> options -> other -> use different mod settings per save. if you don't like the behavior. Note, I haven't tried this setting.

MatthewGP · Post by **MatthewGP** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:58 am

I am getting this message "Rampant: The ground begins to shake". I kept thinking that something bad was going to happen because all of the biters started disappearing and there is just the base and worms. I thought maybe they were tunneling into my base. 4 solid rows of laser turrets later, putting down the rocket silo, and even launching the first rocket... Crickets. It seems like the message meant, for my game, that the biters were beaten and had burrowed under ground so I would stop killing them

Any thoughts on why I am not getting slaughtered by wave after endless juicy wave of biters?

I am running this with natural evolution enemies and buildings also.

Here is my mod-list.json

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{
  "mods": [
    {
      "name": "base",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-programmable-structures",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-programmable-vehicles",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-signals",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-chaingunner",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-flame-tumbler",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-hauler",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-laser-tank",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-miner",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-vehicles-warden",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "aai-zones",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsaddons-oresilos",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsaddons-warehouses",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsbioprocessing",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelscomponents",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsexploration",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsinfiniteores",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "angelslogistics",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelspetrochem",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelsrefining",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "angelssmelting",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "arumbalights",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "auto-research",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "autofill",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "AutoTrash",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Bluebuild",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobassembly",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobelectronics",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobenemies",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobgreenhouse",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobinserters",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "boblibrary",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "boblogistics",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobmining",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobmodules",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobores",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobplates",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobpower",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobrevamp",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobtech",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobvehicleequipment",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "bobwarfare",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "botReplacer",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "Bottleneck",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "bullet-trails",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "BurnerLeech A15 Fix",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "CharcoalBurner",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "cheaper_landfill",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Crafting_Speed_Research",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "creative-mode",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "data-raw-prototypes",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "detached-gun-sounds",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "even-distribution",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Factorissimo2",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "FARL",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Flow Control",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Foreman",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "HandyHands",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "helmod",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "Laser_Beam_Turrets",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "LoaderRedux",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "long-reach-fix",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "More_Floors",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Nanobots",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Natural_Evolution_Buildings",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Natural_Evolution_Enemies",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "off-grid-effects",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "PickerExtended",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "pushbutton",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "radarplus for rso",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Rampant",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "reverse-factory",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Robo-Charge-1x1",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Roboports Extended",
      "enabled": false
    },
    {
      "name": "rso-mod",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "signalstrings",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "SmarterBotRecharge",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "SmartTrains",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "SpaceMod",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "Squeak Through",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "TheFatController",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "TileReconverter",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "upgrade-planner",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "VehicleSnap",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "water-fix",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "what-is-it-really-used-for",
      "enabled": true
    },
    {
      "name": "YARM",
      "enabled": true
    }
  ]
}

Here is the mod-settings.json

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{
  "startup": {
    "Factorissimo2-easy-research": {
      "value": false
    },
    "NE_Conversion_Difficulty": {
      "value": 1
    },
    "NE_Spawner_Search_Distance": {
      "value": 35
    },
    "NE_Unit_Search_Distance": {
      "value": 25
    },
    "NE_Alien_Artifacts": {
      "value": true
    },
    "NE_Artifact_Collector_Radius": {
      "value": 50
    },
    "NE_Artifact_Item_Count": {
      "value": 20
    },
    "NE_Bio_Ammo_Damage": {
      "value": 15
    },
    "NE_Burning_Buildings": {
      "value": true
    },
    "NE_Difficulty": {
      "value": 1
    },
    "NE_Scorched_Earth": {
      "value": false
    },
    "NE_Tree_Hugger": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-unminable-construction-robots": {
      "value": false
    },
    "picker-unminable-logistic-robots": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-inventory-size": {
      "value": 120
    },
    "picker-requester-paste-multiplier": {
      "value": 10
    },
    "picker-reacher-reach-distance": {
      "value": 180
    },
    "picker-reacher-build-distance": {
      "value": 180
    },
    "picker-reacher-reach-resource-distance": {
      "value": 2.7
    },
    "picker-reacher-drop-item-distance": {
      "value": 6
    },
    "picker-reacher-item-pickup-distance": {
      "value": 1.3
    },
    "picker-reacher-loot-pickup-distance": {
      "value": 10
    },
    "picker-hide-mod-names": {
      "value": false
    },
    "picker-brighter-lights-player": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-brighter-lights-vehicles": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-roundup": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-smaller-tree-box": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-fast-replace-ug": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-smaller-gui-borders": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-small-unplugged-icon": {
      "value": true
    },
    "picker-corpse-time": {
      "value": 3600
    },
    "picker-player-corpse-time": {
      "value": 54000
    },
    "rampant-useDumbProjectiles": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rampant-useNEUnitLaunchers": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rampant-addWallResistanceAcid": {
      "value": true
    },
    "SpaceX-launch-profile": {
      "value": "Launch Mania(x5)"
    },
    "SpaceX-production": {
      "value": 1
    },
    "SpaceX-research": {
      "value": 2
    },
    "start-with-vehicle-miner": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enable-icon-scaling-silos": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enable-icon-scaling-warehouses": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-infinite-ores-yield": {
      "value": 30
    },
    "angels-oil-gas-yield": {
      "value": 30
    },
    "angels-fissure-yield": {
      "value": 30
    },
    "angels-lower-infinite-yield": {
      "value": 0.8
    },
    "angels-enablefluidreq": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteiron": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitecopper": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitestone": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitecoal": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteuranium": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore1": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore2": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore3": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore4": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore5": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteangelsore6": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobbauxite": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobcobalt": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobgems": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobgold": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteboblead": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobnickel": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobquartz": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobrutile": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobsilver": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobsulfur": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobtin": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobtungsten": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitebobzinc": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteyuoki": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfiniteuraniumpower": {
      "value": true
    },
    "angels-enableinfinitedarkmatter": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rf-difficulty": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rf-dynamic": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rso-vanilla-biter-generation": {
      "value": false
    }
  },
  "runtime-global": {
    "bottleneck-signals-per-tick": {
      "value": 40
    },
    "bottleneck-show-running-as": {
      "value": "green"
    },
    "bottleneck-show-stopped-as": {
      "value": "red"
    },
    "bottleneck-show-full-as": {
      "value": "yellow"
    },
    "Factorissimo2-free-recursion": {
      "value": false
    },
    "Factorissimo2-hide-recursion": {
      "value": false
    },
    "loader-use-trains": {
      "value": "all trains"
    },
    "nanobots-nanobots-auto": {
      "value": true
    },
    "nanobots-network-limits": {
      "value": true
    },
    "nanobots-nano-poll-rate": {
      "value": 60
    },
    "nanobots-nano-queue-rate": {
      "value": 12
    },
    "nanobots-nano-queue-per-cycle": {
      "value": 100
    },
    "nanobots-cell-queue-rate": {
      "value": 5
    },
    "nanobots-free-bots-per": {
      "value": 50
    },
    "nanobots-equipment-auto": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rampant-attackWaveGenerationUsePollution": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rampant-attackWaveGenerationUsePlayerProximity": {
      "value": true
    },
    "rampant-attackWaveGenerationThresholdMin": {
      "value": 0
    },
    "rampant-attackWaveGenerationThresholdMax": {
      "value": 20
    },
    "rampant-attackPlayerThreshold": {
      "value": 7
    },
    "rampant-attackWaveMaxSize": {
      "value": 150
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-curvedRail": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-straightRail": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-bigElectricPole": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-railSignals": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-railChainSignals": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-safeBuildings-trainStops": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-permanentNocturnal": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rampant-aiPointsScaler": {
      "value": 1
    },
    "rf-compat": {
      "value": false
    },
    "rf-delay": {
      "value": 300
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Veden · Post by **Veden** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:33 am

Are any of the spawners making units?

I'm not really seeing any.

MatthewGP · Post by **MatthewGP** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:49 am

Every once in awhile there will be a small trickle of biters, but it is like every 15 minutes for maybe a few minutes. When I say small, I mean like 1 or 2 biters at a time going up to the walls. Not a whole attack unit of 20+. If you would like any other info or the whole save, let me know. I love your mod... I was just so sad after putting up 4 lines thick of turrets and one biter came to the party

I also deleted every mod except Rampant AI and Natural Evolution Enemies. The spawners still aren't making units.

Veden · Post by **Veden** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:04 am

Yeah, you are correct in thinking that when you see that message the biters are coming.

I don't know if this is something that Rampant or NE is actually causing.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48931

MatthewGP · Post by **MatthewGP** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:16 am

Ah, excellent. It is probably that then. Thanks for your help and the great mod!

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