[Public/Europe] Dedicated Server

[daniel34]

/edit: @daniel, is it possible to get the final save of the youki server map? I wanted to have a look at the final builds since I couldn't be online during this weekend

Final save/autosaves of yuoki incl. mods: http://188.165.250.160:34197/yuoki1.zip (~80mb)

I'll not be on the server today. I will update YARM probably tomorrow evening, but this playthrough will be without FARL for now (we can't always play the same mods).

[psznm]

Satellite launched, I wouldn't mind playing same mods again, but I think there should definitely be more biters ... it was somewhat boring with them never attacking. There was just too few of them, regardless of the settings ... I think RSO has something to do with it.

[psznm]

Satellite launched, I wouldn't mind playing same mods again, but I think there should definitely be more biters ... it was somewhat boring with them never attacking. There was just too few of them, regardless of the settings ... I think RSO has something to do with it.

I suggest increasing RSO"enemy_base_size_multiplier" alot while leaving "absolute_enemy_chance" the same. Also reducing ore richness would be nice, so we wouldn't need only 2 copper deposits for the whole game.

[DRBLN]

and science tweaker

[kaZ]

There is not even done everything, the goal should be harder than just doing a stupid rocket with a satellite. I have the feeling, first many people build a base and than some superior engineers join the server and build that thing, which is very easy when most of the work is done.

[psznm]

There is not even done everything, the goal should be harder than just doing a stupid rocket with a satellite. I have the feeling, first many people build a base and than some superior engineers join the server and build that thing, which is very easy when most of the work is done.

That is truth, however there isnt much to do anymore, and there is even less motivation to do those things ... like, why should i do power armor 5 if i don't need to fight biters at all? I personally think we need to increase difficulty somehow, by a lot .... "winning" the game in 37 hours of server time doesn't seem right.

[Loewchen]

I would like to drasticly decrease the ore richness and frequency while increasing enemy base frequency. That would make it necessary to expand earlier on while doing so is more difficult, so we cant just turtle in and build up high tier armour/turrets. Maybe we could even try a mod that makes the biters more challenging...

[daniel34]

Server has been restarted with a new map, this time all settings to very big (water, ores, oil, biters), but with Marathon mod and RSO.
EDIT: Server will remain on 0.12.10 for now, the mods used are not supporting 0.12.11 yet.

[xian780]

Server crashed about half an hour ago and its not come back up

[daniel34]

Restarted the server. I really should install an autorestart script sometime.

[Bisa]

Restarted the server. I really should install an autorestart script sometime.

*hint* https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 33&t=13874 *hint*

[Xerrass]

Nice Server nice People there

[daniel34]

New map after the last one was completed:

• Ores: Very low / Very small / Very poor
• Enemies: Very High / Very Big / Very Good *

Goal

• I dare you to launch 1 rocket with these settings!

Let's see how that map goes!

* Yes I know Very Good richness for biters is easier, but I wanted to give you a chance

[orzelek]

Hmmm.. not sure how to tell you that.
You have RSO.. that means that this richness value near enemies is just ignored

RSO looks only at frequency and size for biters.
Also for completeness about ore frequency - setting it to very low for all ores means it's like nothing was changed. RSO uses relative model on rolling for ores so if they all are reduced then relative chance remains the same.

Rest of settings listed will give you enough problems - good luck

[daniel34]

Wait... are you telling me that setting the frequency of all ores to Very Low yields the same result as setting them to Normal (or Very High for that matter) ?
That the global ore amount per chunk for the whole map is the same no matter how I set the frequency and only if I increase the frequency of one ore the others are getting less, although they're are at Very Low already?

I assume that at least the Very Small ore size and the Very Poor richness have an impact on the 'ores per chunk', as I''ve seem from the current map. (1 small field for iron, copper, coal and stone in the center and a small coal deposit near the biters in the south, other than that the map is surrounded by biters).

[orzelek]

RSO behavior is very different from vanilla perlin noise.
With RSO you don't set amount of ores per chunk - there is a probability of getting ore per region (7x7 chunks) but it's a config setting not map generation one.

When ore roll succeeds it will pick one of ores randomly(thats where frequency comes in and thats why it's relative).
When ore is picked it will use size and richness to generate itself and has a chance to generate secondary ore for that chunk - this is another random roll and if it succeeds secondary ore will be generated in reduced quantity based on same rules.

[Xerrass]

interesting and good to know there are very small veins with like 500k coal so hmm lets see how this will work out

[orzelek]

interesting and good to know there are very small veins with like 500k coal so hmm lets see how this will work out

Those are a frequent point of discussion on RSO - still haven't decided if they should simply not spawn or just get degraded to some sane amount per pile.

[kaZ]

Daniel what about doing the 40k rocket challenge you already mentioned?

[daniel34]

Daniel what about doing the 40k rocket challenge you already mentioned?

I only mentioned there was someone who lauched 40k rockets with bobs mods: https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =8&t=17250
TBH i'm surprised you almost finished this map with the current settings.

Don't know what I'll do for the next map, but if you want to go for 40k rockets that's fine too.
So please post your ideas for the next map ...