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Factorio annotated roadmap - 0.17+

Post by Jap2.0 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:51 pm

This is a roadmap for changes in the version 0.17 and later. It includes the progress on the change and source(s). This only includes changes announced in publicly available sources, meaning that there are changes in 0.17 that are not included here, and that some changes may have more progress or have been dropped without my knowing. This does not include bugfixes or additions to the mod interface, or most other changes to mods and scripting. Most information is sourced from the blog, Reddit, or this forum; some miscellaneous information is from Discord or other sources, but information places other than those listed above is usually not added unless I stumble across it or it is brought to my attention and can be linked to permanently or a screenshot is available.

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Known completed for that version
In progress
No information/not started

0.17 (Mid-late February 2019) 1 2 3 4 5
Major features:
  • Improved map editor 1, 2, 3, 4
    • Can edit any save the game can load 1
  • Overhauled new player experience/tutorial/campaign/whatever it is/etc. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, various
    • Cliff explosives and landfill will not be available in the tutorial 1
    • No message dialogs 1
    • The map expands, not resets 1
    • Compilatron 1
    • New objective window 1
    • Surprises 1
    • The escape pod MIGHT exist, unlike freeplay 1, 2
    • Multiplayer! 1, 2
  • Improved map generation 1, 2, 3, 4
    • 9 options per setting instead of 5 1
    • Things work better 1
    • More predictable starting area 1
  • Improved blueprint library 1, 2
  • Improved sound design (environmental sound and sound effects) 1
Graphics:
  • Complete engine rewrite 1, 2, 3, various
    • Now uses OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 (feature level 10) 1
    • CPU optimizations 1
    • GPU optimizations 1, 2
    • Texture streaming 1, 2
    • Redone font rendering 1
    • Something to do with shaders 1
    • Something to do with shadows 1
    • Support for Metal, Vulkan, etc. 1
    • Exclusive fullscreen 1
  • More HR sprites 1
    • HR underground belts 1
    • HR electric poles and substation 1, 2
    • HR turrets and beams 1, 2, 3
    • HR walls and gates 1
    • HR spawners 1
    • HR enemies 1, 2, 3, 4
      • Spawners 1, 2
      • Biters 1, 2
      • Worms 1, 2
      • Spitters 1
    • HR mining drills 1
    • Transport belts show perspective 1
    • 64x64 (2x resolution) icons 1
    Gui:
    • GUI reskin and partial rework 1, 2, 3, various
      • Mod GUI rewrite 1
      • Train GUI 1
      • Tech tree 1
      • Map generator GUI 1
      • Sound settings GUI 1
    Balancing:
    • Rocket shooting speed is no longer a prerequisite for the rocket silo 1
    • Belt speeds increased 12.5% from 13.33/26.66/40.00 items/s to 15/30/45 items/s 1, 2
    • Pipes to ground do not affect throughput (they apply friction relative to their length) 1, 2
    • Cannon shell research is required before artillery 1
    • Military rebalances 1
    • Science rebalances 1
    • The satellite is unlocked by the space science pack recipe 1
    • Rocket silo technology only unlocks the rocket silo and rocket part 1
    • Rocket fuel has its own technology (prereqs. engine and rocketry) 1
    • Nuclear power is split to Uranium processing and nuclear power (Kovarex e p prereqs. uranium processing and rocket fuel) 1
    • Rocket control units are their own technology (prereqs. purple and yellow science) 1
    • Atomic bombs use rocket control units instead of processing units 1
    • Low density structure has its own technology (prereqs. blue science and advanced material processing) 1
    • Low density structures replace steel in the portable fusion reactor, personal laser defense, and mk. 2 equipment 1
    • (POSSIBLY) Smelting time changed to 3.2 from 3.5 1, 2, 3
    • (POSSIBLY) Crafting time for for military and blue science changed to 16s from 10 and 12, respecitvely (10 and 24 currently planned in 0.17) 1, 2
    Minor features/changes:
    • Pipes will be cleared if there is less than 0.05 in the entire segment 1, 2, 3, 4
    • The game minimizes upon an alt-tab 1
    • Rendering stops upon minimization on MacOS and Linux (currently only implemented on Windows) 1
    • Laser turrets, distractor robots, and the personal laser defense shoot high-resolution beams 1, 2
    • Mods can easily render geometric shapes, with conditional visibility (e.g. limiting the visibility of these objects to specific forces or players) 1
    • Belts now fit 8 items 8 pixels apart instead of 6-8 items 9 pixels apart 1, 2
    • Trains now exist; the wording of train stops without any assigned trains has changed from "there are no trains" to "this stop has no trains" 1
    • The game is won by launching an empty rocket (there was storyline... and it's gone) 1
    • Systems of different fluids cannot be connected 1
    • Pipes show their flow rate 1
    • Mass and friction can be set separately for each liquid 1
    • Addition of a GUI style inspector 1
    • Underground belts show holes when sideloadin 1
    • Alt mode doesn't toggle alt-view! 1
    • Robots won’t fly out unless you’re moving slower than they can fly 1
    • Filter inserters can switch between a blacklist and a whitelist 1, 2
    • Upgrade planner 1, 2, 3, 4
      • Upgrades both ends of underground belts 1
      • Can upgrade modules 1
      • Can upgrade blueprints 1
    • Deconstructing cliffs 1, 2, 3, 4
    • Vanilla armor no longer has durability 1
    • Pickaxes removed 1
    • Base mining speed equal to that of an iron pickaxe 1
    • Steel research increases mining speed 1
    • Burner efficiency no longer used in vanilla 1
    • Mining hardness and power removed and replaced by a mining time modifier 1
    • Stone has an equal mining time to other early game resources 1
    • Item limit removed for vanilla assembling machines 1, 2
    • Steam networking support 1
    • Networking breaks less 1
    • Interaction error messages 1
    • Interacted entities are highlighted when hovered over 1
    • Sync mod settings to save 1, 2, 3
    • ID mapping system rewritten 1
    • Key codes replaced with scan codes 1
    • Fast pipe replacement 1
    • Science packs have their own researches 1
    • Power armor mk. 2 requires level 2 modules 1
    • Beacons and level 3 modules require production science 1
    • Train out of fuel indicator 1
    • Heat interface 1, 2
    • Infinity pipe 1, 2, 3
    • Multiple installed versions of a mod 1
    • Cloning entities/areas 1
    • Lua function to generate a full tech tree 1
    • Research queue 1, 2, 3
    • Copy/cut and paste 1, 2
    • Undo 1
    • Proper catalysts 1
    • Tile and entity ghosts are processed separately 1
    • Bots can be shown on the map as a debug option 1, 2, 3, 4
    • Belt immunity equipment 1
    • Items do not spill onto belts 1
    • "More specific map generation in order to improve the composition of the nests" to "generate a special ambience for those areas" 1
    • Fluid physics actually make sense sometimes, a fluid system overhaul, and other improvements (see optimizations below) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    • Mods can use terrain types in resource generation 1
    • Cutscene controller (called it) 1
    • Rich and interactive text 1, 2
      • Colored text 1
      • Styled test 1
      • Icons in text 1
      • Blueprint referencing, allowing for viewing and copying the blueprint 1
      • Map ping 1
      • Referencing recipes 1
      • Referencing armor 1
      • Referencing entities and technologies 1
    • Options for when and where entity information appears (current version by default; options for popups, delays, and hotkeys) 1
    • Less types of damage and resistance used in vanilla 1, 2
    • Trains in blueprints! 1
    • Cannot load saves from 0.13 and 0.14 1, 2
    • Shallow water (can be crossed but not built on, not currently in freeplay) 1
    • Temporary train stops 1, 2
    • Better plural locaizations 1
    • Signed binaries on Mac & Windows 1
    • Blueprint library synced to Steam cloud 1
    • Sync mods to server 1
    • Vehicles are built with some fuel inserted from your inventory 1
    • More mini-tutorials 1
    • Autoplace improvements 1
    • Recipe tree 1
    • Input handling rewrite 1, 2
    Optimizations:
    • Threaded fluid physics and other fluid optimization (+30%-850% - but apparently the new implementation is less efficient on Linux than Windows?) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    • Deconstructing belts with items on them when you don't have enough bots 1
    • Making lots of circuit connections 1
    • See Graphics 1, 2, 3
    • Unknown (because you know they won't just not optimize) 1
    Possible features (not explicitly confirmed):
    • Vanilla vehicle grids (please?) 1
    • Void edge textures 1, 2
    • Spidertron 1, 2, 3
    • Second progress bar for long loading tasks 1
    • Hovering over back/reset/confirm shows changes 1
    • Gamepad/touch support 1
    • Will be released 1
    • Construction bots build multiple entities in one trip 1
    • Nomenclature consistency 1
    • Entering the escape pod (not going to mention any current easter eggs here) 1
    • Actually being able to drive cars, and in multiplayer 1
    • Biters become stronger further away from your base 1
    • Limited freeplay in NPE/demo 1
    • Fuel in blueprints 1

    0.18 (1.0?; May-September 2019?) 1 2
    Balancing:
    • Final balancing 1, 2
    Minor features/changes:
    • Some third-party official translations 1
    Possible features/changes (not explicitly confirmed):
    • Removed trees 1, 2
    • Better pipe layout and control 1, 2, 3
    • Unforeseen changes 1
    • Polish GUI 1
    • Polish campaign 1
    • Fix long-standing bugs and minor issues 1
    • Smoke and tree optimization 1

    0.19 (1.0, 1.1?)
    Possible features/changes (not explicitly confirmed):

    Later versions (1.0+?)
    Possible features/changes (not explicitly confirmed):
    • Official Factorio puzzle 1
    • "Many plans" 1
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    Last updated November 11th 2018 | Major updates in progress as of 1/25
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Post by zOldBulldog » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:38 am

Looks promising.

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Post by Koub » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:29 am

I don't envy you having to keep this updated :mrgreen:
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Post by Gergely » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:25 am

Jap2.0 wrote:I am considering using another color (probably blue). I think I'll have not confirmed as another section for now - maybe have blue be "largely complete" or "shown in FFF, but not necessarily entirely done" - the thing is, it can be rather hard to distinguish between that and "completed".
Why do you want to get the difference between those two? I would like to have a difference between the "No information" and "not started" ones.
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Source?

I think a wiki page would be better, because anyone could update it with things they randomly find the developers saying.

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Post by Lav » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:44 am

Gergely wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote:Vehicles are built with some fuel inserted from your inventory
Source?
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-212

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Post by Jap2.0 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:17 pm

Gergely wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote:I am considering using another color (probably blue). I think I'll have not confirmed as another section for now - maybe have blue be "largely complete" or "shown in FFF, but not necessarily entirely done" - the thing is, it can be rather hard to distinguish between that and "completed".
Why do you want to get the difference between those two? I would like to have a difference between the "No information" and "not started" ones.
I'll probably end up keeping it as is. The problem is that if I have no information beyond that it will happen, I have no idea if it's started.
Gergely wrote:I think a wiki page would be better, because anyone could update it with things they randomly find the developers saying.
Maybe, but I already made it here, I'm not sure how welcoming to it Bilka would be (or maybe he just didn't want to maintain it himself), there's already a page similar to this on the wiki, I don't have a wiki account (at least yet), and, well, after all this work I'm feeling a bit possessive of it :P. If Bilka thinks it would be good on the wiki, I'll consider putting it there. If anyone has anything I should put on here, feel free to let me know here on the forum (but I think I'm watching most sources of information fairly well - if someone wants me to update it with something from the FFF, chances are I won't see that until after I read the FFF, but if it's on Reddit, I might not see it right away).
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Gergely wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote:Vehicles are built with some fuel inserted from your inventory
Source?
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-212
THANK YOU! I spent... probably literal hours looking for that. Now everything has a source :) (at last. For now.)
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Post by Bilka » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:54 pm

Jap2.0 wrote: If Bilka thinks it would be good on the wiki, I'll consider putting it there.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'd prefer to have the user make their own guess on feature completion instead of predefining a guess, which is also part of the reason why everything on the wiki has a source.
The other part of the reason
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Post by Jap2.0 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:56 pm

Bilka wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote: If Bilka thinks it would be good on the wiki, I'll consider putting it there.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'd prefer to have the user make their own guess on feature completion instead of predefining a guess, which is also part of the reason why everything on the wiki has a source.
The other part of the reason
I mean, everything here is sourced too :). And public. And that's also why I said I would only put it on there with your permission. I'm fine keeping it here, though.
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Post by Zavian » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:35 pm

Well whilst you have sources for everything, personally I disagree with how you have classified some things as "Known completed for 0.17".

eg Sync mod settings to save. Quoting from your source "That's already planned for 0.17", which is not the same as "That is already implemented for 0.17".

Also even if the devs think they have the implementation finished and working, it is at least possible that they will discover problems when they start a serious playtest of 0.17, and need to rework some features. It's even possible that the playtest may cause them to change their mind and remove already implemented features.

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Post by Jap2.0 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:17 pm

Zavian wrote:Well whilst you have sources for everything, personally I disagree with how you have classified some things as "Known completed for 0.17".

eg Sync mod settings to save. Quoting from your source "That's already planned for 0.17", which is not the same as "That is already implemented for 0.17".

Also even if the devs think they have the implementation finished and working, it is at least possible that they will discover problems when they start a serious playtest of 0.17, and need to rework some features. It's even possible that the playtest may cause them to change their mind and remove already implemented features.
Yeah, I'll probably end up going through these again - thanks for pointing that on out, I'll fix it soon.
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Post by Jap2.0 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:16 am

Okay, I've gone through it again so that it should be properly pessimistic and not get anyone's hopes up for 0.17 too soon (although personally my guess is experimentals sometime in November... we'll see how that holds out. Don't quote me on that.)
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Post by evopwr » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:13 pm

I'm hoping its in a few hours...

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Post by eradicator » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:31 am

Jap2.0 wrote:(although personally my guess is experimentals sometime in November...
As long as i don't have to update all my mods one week before christmas i'm fine with it.............

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Post by Jap2.0 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:05 am

eradicator wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote:(although personally my guess is experimentals sometime in November...
As long as i don't have to update all my mods one week before christmas i'm fine with it.............

Nice list btw.
That would suck. Thanks.

Sorry for the late update this week, I've been fairly busy this past week and didn't get around to updating it until today.
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Post by cpy » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:15 am

If only gun turrets were filled when placing. Also furnaces, drills and what not.

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Post by Koub » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:44 am

cpy wrote:If only gun turrets were filled when placing. Also furnaces, drills and what not.
+1000 for turrets , maybe drills (but I'd rather have a small buffer like for the burner inserter), but tbh I don't really see the point for the furnaces.
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Post by Terukio » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:20 pm

cpy wrote:If only gun turrets were filled when placing. Also furnaces, drills and what not.
I agree with everything but the turrets. Would make clearing biter nests trivial in the early game, even less so than it already is, when that is really the only point in the game where the biters offer something positive to the game play experience.

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Post by Jap2.0 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:52 pm

Updated, lots of exciting stuff from the last couple weeks.
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Post by zOldBulldog » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:03 am

I am curious as to whether you plan to release 0.17 to experimental with some of the features completed and stable, and then update as new features become stable, or whether you plan to wait for everything to be complete and only then release to experimental for a traditional beta test of the version.

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Post by Jap2.0 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:34 pm

zOldBulldog wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:03 am
I am curious as to whether you plan to release 0.17 to experimental with some of the features completed and stable, and then update as new features become stable, or whether you plan to wait for everything to be complete and only then release to experimental for a traditional beta test of the version.
Looking at what they've done in the past, it'll be basically feature-complete when 17.1 is released - there're usually only a few minor tweaks and maybe a few texture updates other than bugfixes after the beta's released.
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