Are people seriously saying that this game, which is UNDOUBTEDLY one of the most free and open sandbox games on the market, isn't a sandbox game because they can't do one specific thing?


It's not a binary. Wube have made a series of choices to mandate particular ways of playing which has made ...

Loewchen wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2026 11:47 am I think or hope Kovarex is busy with what comes after factorio.

I think most people hoped he was working on Factorio.

but since the focus is shifting toward new projects its not worth to fix a system that needs a ground up revisit, not just a nerved casino or removed lds shuffle, these are just symptoms, not the reason.


If I had to guess, quality is supposed to be a generic system that works seamlessly with ...

In my opinion making a mini-mod of the recycler is almost a hack and surely wasn't a change that the perfectionists at Wube accepted lightly. But it seems they felt it necessary to provide a setting for all players who don't like quality but use it because of some compulsion because it is there ...

Wube held back changes they could have and should have released a long time ago in order to buy goodwill and distract from the fact they they aren't fixing/improving other parts of the game because they don't want to work on Factorio any more.

The fact of the matter is, people will inevitably gravitate towards the path of least resistance, whether that leads to good/interesting gameplay or not.


The difference in WoW is that it effects other people, as it's a multiplayer game.

I hate this elitist attitude. "Sorry guys, if you aren't ...

I'm in a straight betwixt two, but I feel like it's a "speak now or forever hold your peace" type situation.

In the world generally we're seeing a disconnect between governments and citizens. There's a feeling that governments are not listening to people and don't understand the problems that ...

bobucles wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2026 5:28 pm Let's be honest here. Who actually uses the asteroid reroll recipe in a serious, non quality way?

The one place I use it is on my calcite making platform to turn all the chunks into oxide.

Leex2k wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2026 4:52 pm You literally have the option to play whichever version of the game that you want. If you don't want the devs to tamper with your experience, you don't have to let them. The choice is yours alone.

This argument isn't valid because if you stick to 2.0 you miss out on everything else in 2.1.

no idea about asteroid quality mining because I dont have DLC but you can make game harder or easier there.


This post was made in reference to quality modules being disallowed in a recipe in 2.1 because it was said to be too easy, and has nothing to do with the options you showed.

The point is ...

nikimilky wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2026 7:11 am but there are difficulty settings (even much more customisable than what you mentioned) in the game already.

You can decide whether or not you can use quality modules in the asteroid reprocessing recipe already? Where is this option?

Enjoy. Not just the ability -- my enjoyment matters too. What good game balance does is that
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and leaves me with gameplay I can enjoy rather than being forced to choose between bad options.
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the space casino is excessively better than other options, and causes gameplay to degenerate ...

While I agree with some of what you've said in principle, we're talking about a late game thing that has already been in the game for a year and a half. And Factorio is a non competitive, mostly single player game, and partially a sandbox.
And? Are those reasons I should not be allowed to enjoy ...

With the debate over "space casinos" we've encountered the idea that certain things make the game too easy. Why not have difficulty options when starting a new game?

On easy, all restrictions are lifted and the game becomes a pure sandbox.

Normal would be the game we have now.

Hard would have ...

And you will continue to be able to play the game the way you want after the change.

To be clear, I don't use the space casino. Although I think this is a bad change, my original comment was more concerned with the attitude "I'm happy about this" coming from someone who it doesn't effect. Why ...

How will the change make the game more fun for you?


It already is fun. I did and do not do the "Space Casino," so I am not reliant on it. This game requires puzzle solving and mathematics to push production and efficiency. Getting Legendary items easily is not part of the plan. I also play ...

Getting rid of the "Space Casino" is the best thing to see here. I always viewed it as a cheaty exploit and refused to ever do it.


How will the change make the game more fun for you?

How do you feel about other people being upset at it's removal?

I've never heard an answer to these questions ...

I think one of the strengths of factorio is the belt and all the cool ways you can use them. All the other planets incentivize different methods of belting. Pipes on the other hand are pretty boring, which makes Vulcanus boring because so much of it is fluids. It's also very easy and forgiving.

The ...

Cool changes, especially platform to platform transfers which open up a lot of possibilities.

Yeah, kinda feels huh. SA was not close to finished on release, they must have known it could never be so without early access support. Expecting to buy a finished product it was a missbuy for me. Feels like some people at Wube are just tired of the game, quit playing and didnt look back, left ...