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[MOD 0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Therax » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:53 pm

Type: Mod
Name: Bulk Rail Loaders
Description: Very fast train loader/unloader for bulk goods.
License: LGPL 3.0 (https://choosealicense.com/licenses/lgpl-3.0/)
Version: 0.5.4
Release: 2018-10-17
Tested-With-Factorio-Version: 0.16.51
Category: Item
Tags: Logistics, Trains, Loaders
Download-Url: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/therax/r ... /downloads
Website: https://github.com/mspielberg/factorio-railloader
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by BHakluyt » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:20 am

Hi Therax

My apologies, I think I have found your first bug for this forum. Just tried to take a simple BP from top setup to copy to bottom setup...being extremely lazy and all...
Photos or it didnt happen
Some thoughts on your mod
edit -
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by steinio » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:26 am

Space Science?
Are you insane?

This should be researchable directly after trains as setting up inserters for loading and unloading is tedious.
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by BHakluyt » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:03 pm

Of course yes! Space science. If inserters are tedious, then usebots not bots. BPs and bots. Stack inserters does a decent job unloading a train.... Inserters are Factorio. Here is a loader for you to use early game:
mad blender skills
edit - oh yeah therax I wanted to let you know. Using "q" to get the item on curser doesn't work for this mod it seems...

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by BHakluyt » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:35 pm

It would seem that the rail loaders suffer from the same bug I reported for the mini loaders; when trying to take a bp... of some hazard concrete...from map view:
Please just kill it

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by steinio » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:40 pm

BHakluyt wrote:It would seem that the rail loaders suffer from the same bug I reported for the mini loaders; when trying to take a bp... of some hazard concrete...from map view:
Please just kill it
What's that of a floor design?
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by BHakluyt » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:44 pm

Yes, wanted to BP a square piece of that hazard concrete design. I guess it differs from original bug in that it wasn't a single entity I tried to BP...

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Therax » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:42 pm

Version v.0.2.0 is now available, with new graphics for the loader courtesy of Arch666Ange, and for the unloader courtesy of me and some time in Paint.net, and fixes for the reported issues.
BHakluyt wrote:My apologies, I think I have found your first bug for this forum. Just tried to take a simple BP from top setup to copy to bottom setup...being extremely lazy and all...
Thank you! Not sure when that typo crept in. Fixed now.
BHakluyt wrote:edit - oh yeah therax I wanted to let you know. Using "q" to get the item on curser doesn't work for this mod it seems...
This is unfortunately something I've not been able to figure out how to work around. There needs to be a special item associated with the loaders for blueprinting to work correctly, but it can't be the same item as used to build the loaders, or you wouldn't be able to place them overlapping existing rails. If anyone figures out a way to resolve this dilemma, I'll all ears!
BHakluyt wrote:It would seem that the rail loaders suffer from the same bug I reported for the mini loaders; when trying to take a bp... of some hazard concrete...from map view:
You are correct. I need to remember to check blueprinting only tiles while testing. :)
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Adalonus » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:10 am

As a quick heads up, the modportal homepage link for Bulk Rail Loaders sends you to the MiniLoaders forum thread, not this one.

Additionally, I am getting the blueprint error as well. I hope it is an easy fix.

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Therax » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:56 pm

Adalonus wrote:As a quick heads up, the modportal homepage link for Bulk Rail Loaders sends you to the MiniLoaders forum thread, not this one.
This has been fixed. There was a bug in the mod portal preventing me from fixing the link before: viewtopic.php?f=189&t=56886 :)
Adalonus wrote:Additionally, I am getting the blueprint error as well. I hope it is an easy fix.
Which version are you running? Are you doing anything special to create this blueprint, or running other mods that change the blueprint creation process? I have not seen this particular error before.
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Adalonus » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:01 pm

Which version are you running? Are you doing anything special to create this blueprint, or running other mods that change the blueprint creation process? I have not seen this particular error before.
Bulk Rail Loader 0.2.1

Best I can tell that has mods with anything to do with blueprints is:
Picker Extended
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by hitzu » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:22 pm

Bug: cannot get off the cargo wagon while it's over the Bulk Loader.

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Therax » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:51 am

Adalonus wrote:Best I can tell that has mods with anything to do with blueprints is:
Picker Extended
Picker Tweaks
Upgrade Planner
I'm not able to reproduce even with your full mod list installed. Are you doing anything special when you create your blueprint? The error message you posted seems to indicate that you created a blueprint somehow while not having a blueprint in your hand. I tested PickerExtended's quick pipette blueprint feature (control-Q), but that also seems to work fine. Can you send me a save I can use to try to reproduce? It's possible there was a bug in the versions of the mods you're running, that is fixed in the versions I downloaded for testing.
hitzu wrote:Bug: cannot get off the cargo wagon while it's over the Bulk Loader.
This is not easy to solve, because the loader needs a collision box for inserters and loaders to interact with them. My best suggestion is to ride in the locomotive when possible, or use manual control to move the train so you can get out. You can also mine and replace the Bulk Loader while riding in the cargo wagon. None are great alternatives, I admit.
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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Adalonus » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:26 am

The error message you posted seems to indicate that you created a blueprint somehow while not having a blueprint in your hand. I tested PickerExtended's quick pipette blueprint feature (control-Q), but that also seems to work fine. Can you send me a save I can use to try to reproduce? It's possible there was a bug in the versions of the mods you're running, that is fixed in the versions I downloaded for testing.
I've played a bit farther in the save file after disabling bulk rail loaders, but if the error is showing up because of trying to blueprint something when my hand doesn't have a blueprint, it might be a problem with picker. Sometimes when I try to blueprint, I have to select it twice as the first time doesn't register I am blueprinting something. It's really odd. I'll dig through picker's forums and see if it is a known error before I have you examine my save file.

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Re: [0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by laige » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:26 pm

I can't help but think I should be able to walk over the Railunloader. I added collision_mask = {"not-colliding-with-itself"}, to all the unloader entities. I then could walk over the unloader, and it did not appear to interfere with the scripts. However it has the unwanted side-effect of being able to build other entities on top of it.

Would you consider making it so we can walk over the railunloader normally in the mod?

Also there is an issue with the railloader. The ghost image when placing a vertical (up-down) railloader shows the wagon inside to be in the incorrect spot. This makes the player think he is placing it correctly, but it is in-fact off by one space. To correctly place it; it needs to be placed one space up.

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Post by Therax » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:27 am

laige wrote:I can't help but think I should be able to walk over the Railunloader. I added collision_mask = {"not-colliding-with-itself"}, to all the unloader entities. I then could walk over the unloader, and it did not appear to interfere with the scripts. However it has the unwanted side-effect of being able to build other entities on top of it.

Would you consider making it so we can walk over the railunloader normally in the mod?
I've been expermenting with collision_mask myself, and I think I have a configuration that works. Fortunately it was less work than expected. :mrgreen:
laige wrote:Also there is an issue with the railloader. The ghost image when placing a vertical (up-down) railloader shows the wagon inside to be in the incorrect spot. This makes the player think he is placing it correctly, but it is in-fact off by one space. To correctly place it; it needs to be placed one space up.
Thanks for the report! The guide image of a cargo-wagon is more like halfway between tiles, but still definitely misleading and unhelpful, and I'll be fixing it in the next version.
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Re: [MOD 0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

Post by Therax » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:09 am

New version v0.2.2 is available on the mod portal. Lots of QOL improvements, including fixes to collision boxes, the pipette tool, and blueprinting. Have fun!
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Post by JerryCZZ1 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:02 pm

Hi. I get this error when I tried make a blueprint with rail parts (rails, rail signal, wires etc.) Any solution?
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Post by Therax » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:08 pm

JerryCZZ1 wrote:Hi. I get this error when I tried make a blueprint with rail parts (rails, rail signal, wires etc.) Any solution?
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Update to the latest 0.16.x experimental. This field was added in 0.16.13 and the latest as of this writing is 0.16.19.
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Post by SqFKYo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:40 pm

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Getting this when I try to create new blueprint of random items. This time burner turbine from AAII. Any ideas?

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