C++ developers wanted [done]

[slpwnd]

Sorry for a bit of spam, but I think it is not too bad on our own forums=)

So far we had little success in finding good C++ developers to join us to work on Factorio here in Prague. If you can, please spread the word: http://www.factorio.com/job/game-developer

[albatrosv13]

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[sillyfly]

From my (somewhat limited) personal experience - It is very easy to find programmers, but finding *good* programmers is much harder!

[Xecutor]

IMHO Possibility of remote work would increase amount of possible candidates tremendously.

[dee-]

So, do you want mere programmers or did you mean software architects?

[Piranha]

I think the real question is who is this half of a person?

[slpwnd]

I think the real question is who is this half of a person?

I am=) The think is that I am spending quite a bit of time with things like support, answering emails, business stuff, talking to gfx and sound guys, etc.

did you mean software architects?

We need people who will write code. Whatever they like to be called =)

From my (somewhat limited) personal experience - It is very easy to find programmers, but finding *good* programmers is much harder!

Agreed.

There are a lot of people who know C++ and i have seen you searching the person knowing C++ for quite some time. Maybe the standards are too high? Or maybe people say that they know C++, but actually don't?
Or maybe the relocation to Prague is the real issue?

It is actually the combination of things.

1. Relocation to Prague is not for everyone.
2. Many people are not on the level we require (we have an online C++ coding test as a frontline filter).
3. We do offer imho very good working compensation (not mentioning perks like working on the game, etc.). However this is relative to local standards. If someone from the "west" (Germany, Netherlands, etc.) applies for the job then it is difficult for us to compete. Because a very good salary here in Prague would be average or below over there.

[albatrosv13]

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[quinor]

I actually guess it may be exactly codility.

[SHiRKiT]

2. Many people are not on the level we require (we have an online C++ coding test as a frontline filter).

Would you mind showing that or at least a part of that, just for me to have an idea of what I'd be asked in the future (I plan working in the game industry after I graduate).

[slpwnd]

I actually guess it may be exactly codility.

Yes.

[slpwnd]

2. Many people are not on the level we require (we have an online C++ coding test as a frontline filter).

Would you mind showing that or at least a part of that, just for me to have an idea of what I'd be asked in the future (I plan working in the game industry after I graduate).

We have a good reason to keep this private. The point is that into some degree the applicants are supposed to write a program for a task they haven't encountered before. Though in my opinion the difficulty is on the level of 1st year of university.

[quinor]

According to my knowledge about Codility tasks, most of them can be easily solved even by skilled high school students, so it's rather in order to exclude people with next to no programming skills than to choose good developers.

[albatrosv13]

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[ssilk]

I think the point is HOW you solve the tasks.

[slpwnd]

According to my knowledge about Codility tasks, most of them can be easily solved even by skilled high school students, so it's rather in order to exclude people with next to no programming skills than to choose good developers.

Yes. As I said the test can be solved by a 1st year uni student.

Imho it is almost impossible to learn about someone's programming skills based on some kind of the test. One approach is to look at the persons' past projects. Next step might be to ask the person to work with you and see how he does, if he / she fits if he / she likes the team, etc.

So the test is basically a preliminary sieve.

[SHiRKiT]

Cool I've done some of those tests with ease. Although I have my efforts in C# right now since I've been playing with Unity. I've yet to properly learn C++

[Twisted_Code]

2. Many people are not on the level we require (we have an online C++ coding test as a frontline filter).

Would you mind showing that or at least a part of that, just for me to have an idea of what I'd be asked in the future (I plan working in the game industry after I graduate).

My sentiments (almost) exactly. I plan on working in some computer science/programming position, and will probably be developing games on the side if not as a focus. I'm considering Information Security... but I've still got high school to finish yet. At any rate, it would be nice to have a rough idea on the expectations stated above.

[Peter34]

IMHO Possibility of remote work would increase amount of possible candidates tremendously.

I know they're already found the programmer they need, but the problem with remote work is that the Factorio guys are based in Eastern Europe, and therefore are able and willing - and inclined - to pay a salary that's suitable for the cost-of-living in Eastern Europe, and so it'd be far too low for a programmer remote working from somewhere in Western Europe, the USA or Japan, or Australia/NZ.