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Space platform not requesting a group

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This space platform:
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Does request the 3rd group, but not the first.

The rocket silo on Vulcanus
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I would expect the request to show in the sent signals:
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So Apparently you should click these... I should have read the hover over pop up properly, I assumed it is just a logistic request, like on the player.

The fact it auto-selected it for the Vulcanus stuff made it even more confusing.

And you cannot make it import from ANY planet... Or I don't see how.
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This is not pretty, but at least it works now:
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Update: It is horrible, I would have to update a version for each planet!
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If you want some basic material to be sent from any planet, you may want to use the auto request for construction, this will auto request things that used for the platform itself.

otherwise you may not want to send big mining drill into orbit from nauvis, to the same platform that also receive them from vulcanus, it may not always be necessary to update those requests for every building and every planet.
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mmmPI wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:41 pm If you want some basic material to be sent from any planet, you may want to use the auto request for construction, this will auto request things that used for the platform itself.
I want exactly a stack of surplus gun turrets. Auto requests cannot be edited, right? I had to check and I don't see how would I edit it. Then I thought you meant me to build blueprints in the distance amounting to the surplus I want:
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But this doesn't request the items. And even if it did, I assume it would request the "space platform foundations" items too.
mmmPI wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:41 pm otherwise you may not want to send big mining drill into orbit from nauvis, to the same platform that also receive them from vulcanus, it may not always be necessary to update those requests for every building and every planet.
You are right. Therefore there should be an "ANY" surface option. Then you can choose big mining drills from Vulcanus and gun turrets from any planet the platform visits.
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Brambor wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:10 am
I want exactly a stack of surplus gun turrets. Auto requests cannot be edited, right? I had to check and I don't see how would I edit it. Then I thought you meant me to build blueprints in the distance amounting to the surplus I want:

But this doesn't request the items. And even if it did, I assume it would request the "space platform foundations" items too.
Woaw that's more creative than what i meant x). I understand a bit more your use case. I think it's going to be frustating if you want to keep exactly a surplus of a stack or "50". You cannot edit / abuse the auto request as you attempted to do i think. I was thinking that if you want turret in your platform or the "basic" material, you may not even need to use a logistic request defining each item. You can "trust" the platform to not be able to request precisely a number and always go above. This is because the auto request usually are completed by "full load" of rockets, even if you just need 1 turret, you would still get a dispatch to orbit of a full "rocket capacity" worth of turret. This is more what i wanted to transmit. You may be able to rely on the non-edited auto-construction to provide surplus, albeit not precisely "50".

This is actually something you need to be doing in a way, when you put the platform to only move when "all request are fullfilled". You NEED to make sure you have the "basic material" in ANY planet, otherwise the reparation could cause a request to never be fullfilled.In such case particularly it may be redundant to also have a logistic request set up to cover that very same purpose of making sure "the platform gets material to rebuild/repair over time from any planet".

You could make the requests so they have a min and max number, but to me that would add a step after the facts, where some surplus are dropped to match the proper number. That would not cause the platform to receive half of a shipment or a single turret if that's what's needed to fulfill precisely the number. As far as i played. So one may as well embrace the extra load i thought and count on it to alleviate some request set up. That works for me.

Brambor wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:10 am Therefore there should be an "ANY" surface option. Then you can choose big mining drills from Vulcanus and gun turrets from any planet the platform visits.
If only x)

I wish the default option for the source planet of the request doesn't default for Nauvis 90% of time and other planets only for specific items but rather of where the ship is when you set it up. I wish there was an option for "any" surface option too. For the very use case you are describing which is similar to what i started doing and quit because it's annoying, i thought personnaly that the auto request was doing almost a similar job. With the added quirk that it may cause unexpected request sometimes if you have some long handed inserter or combinator that get destroyed and you don't have them automated on a planet, it can cause a ship to get stuck.

If you have a platform that goes from Vulcanus to Gleba and back and only does this, and you try to request "50 gun turrets". It will default on requesting them on Nauvis and the ship won't get stuck because it will never try to request turret and will hapilly go unprotected. So you can use an interrupt to go and pick up turrets when the number is too low but that for me would be more for things like nuclear reactor / fuel or quality thrusters, things that are not automated everywhere and that may be costly to keep a large surplus. Or set manually to request turret at both planets, or "trust" the auto construction feature that can request from any planet. The later is the one i advise for less manual fiddling with loading rockets.

I like the idea of the "ANY" surface option but i was told it could be confusing, because a platform doesn't try to unload what it is also requesting. So if you set up "request turret at any planet", this also means your ship can't unload any turrets to those planets from which it is requesting them. Whereas the construction request are temporary and would allow an hypothetical ship carrying turrets from nauvis to gleba, to temporarily receive a shipment from gleba. To isolate the logistic logic from the auto-repair and avoid interference.
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