[2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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[2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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I'm not sure I can easily reproduce this.

Mods:
SpaceAge
RedCalculator [1.1.3] - after restarting there was an update for it and I've updated it mod.

I did about 30 mins before the crash switch my primary monitor Identified as Monitor 0 in the log, from a different inptu to the one that was displaying Factorio (doing work on a different system for work, and when work is over i switched the input for monitor 0 to the computer running factorio)
This didn't cause the crash cause this happened about 30 mins before. but I don't know if it could be contributing.

I was attempting to apply a blueprint i designed in a different map loaded in the same execution (didn't restart the game) used /editor and then reloaded the save to apply the blueprint to the original save. (all the same map just used the editor to remove all the stuff i didn't need, once i felt good with the blueprint i made it, saved it to the global cache and reloaded my save. where it ran for another 12 hours and then the crash happened.)

At the time of the crash I had
1. Applied the template
2. Started ~500 bot build on my person to supliment the ~200 i already had in the system
3. added more bots to the network
4. Applied a select and decider combinators to replace the ghosts.
5. selected the far right, bottom decider combinator to all "Or"s instead of "And"s which started all the inserters to beging cycling through all the options sent out of the decider, through the select combinator

I BELIEVE (don't know for sure, but i'm fairly confident) that I had closed the combinator window and attempted to move when the crash happened.

i've included my blueprints, not sure they will help but yeah.

I haven't attempted to restart factorio. and I'll report back if i'm able to reproduce this crash.

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   0.016 2026-08-12 20:33:09; Factorio 2.1.14 (build 87180, win64, steam, space-age)
   0.016 Operating system: Windows 11 (build 26200) 
   0.000 Initializing Steam API.
   0.016 Program arguments: "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Factorio\bin\x64\Factorio.exe" 
   0.016 Config path: C:/Users/marcus.SORAFAMILY/AppData/Roaming/Factorio/config/config.ini
   0.016 Read data path: D:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Factorio/data
   0.016 Write data path: C:/Users/marcus.SORAFAMILY/AppData/Roaming/Factorio [55567/475270MB]
   0.016 Binaries path: D:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Factorio/bin
   0.082 System info: [CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, 16 cores, RAM: 46688/65459 MB, page: 73372/91059 MB, virtual: 4381/134217727 MB, extended virtual: 0 MB]
   0.198 Memory info:
   0.198  [0]: Kingston KHX2666C15/32GX 32768 MB 2400 MHz 1.2 v 64|64
   0.198  [1]: Kingston KHX2666C15/32GX 32768 MB 2400 MHz 1.2 v 64|64
   0.900 Display options: [FullScreen: false] [VSync: true] [UIScale: automatic (100.0%)] [Native DPI: true] [Screen: 1] [Special: lmw] [Lang: en]
   1.363 Video driver: windows
   1.363 Available displays: 4
   1.363  [0]: \\.\DISPLAY1 - Radeon RX 570 Series {0x80005, [0,0], 3440x1440, 32bit, 60Hz}
   1.365  [1]: \\.\DISPLAY2 - Radeon RX 570 Series {0x8080001, [2599,-1084], 1920x1080, 32bit, 60Hz}
   1.366  [2]: \\.\DISPLAY3 - Radeon RX 570 Series {0x8080001, [-1241,-1080], 1920x1080, 32bit, 60Hz}
   1.367  [3]: \\.\DISPLAY4 - Radeon RX 570 Series {0x8080001, [679,-1085], 1920x1080, 32bit, 75Hz}
   1.976 Initialised OpenGL:[2] Radeon RX 570 Series; driver: 3.3.0 Core Profile Context 26.5.2.260413
   1.976   [Extensions] s3tc:yes; KHR_debug:yes; ARB_clear_texture:yes, ARB_copy_image:yes, ARB_pipeline_statistics_query:yes, ARB_gl_spirv:yes, ARB_ES2_compatibility:yes
   1.976   [Version] 3.3
   1.993 Graphics settings preset: very-high
   1.993   Dedicated video memory size 8170 MB (detected from Radeon RX 570 Series; VendorID: 0x1002; DeviceID: 0x67df)
   2.279 Desktop composition is active.
   2.279 Graphics options: [Graphics quality: high] [Video memory usage: all] [DXT: high-quality]
   2.279                   [Max threads (load/render): 32/16] [Max texture size: 0] [Tex.Stream.: false] [Rotation quality: normal] [Other: STDCWTl] [B:0,C:0,S:100]
   2.375 [Audio] Driver:wasapi, Device:Default device, Depth:32, Channels:6, Frequency:44100
   3.419 Logitech LED Controller initialized.
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag expansion = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag expansion-shaders = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag freezing = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag quality = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag rail-bridges = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag segmented-units = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag space-travel = true
   3.484 Info ModManager.cpp:450: FeatureFlag spoiling = true
   5.652 Loading mod settings red-calc 1.1.3 (settings.lua)
   5.669 Loading mod core 0.0.0 (data.lua)
   6.376 Loading mod base 2.1.14 (data.lua)
  12.994 Loading mod red-calc 1.1.3 (data.lua)
  13.240 Loading mod elevated-rails 2.1.14 (data.lua)
  14.170 Loading mod recycler 2.1.14 (data.lua)
  14.661 Loading mod quality 2.1.14 (data.lua)
  14.840 Loading mod space-age 2.1.14 (data.lua)
  28.806 Loading mod base 2.1.14 (data-updates.lua)
  28.844 Loading mod recycler 2.1.14 (data-updates.lua)
  28.924 Loading mod space-age 2.1.14 (data-updates.lua)
  29.168 Checksum for core: 2866719493
  29.168 Checksum of base: 178775364
  29.168 Checksum of red-calc: 916933456
  29.168 Checksum of elevated-rails: 1071712039
  29.168 Checksum of recycler: 2113261148
  29.168 Checksum of quality: 3054491090
  29.168 Checksum of space-age: 2694381427
  29.982 Prototype list checksum: 3094771922
  30.083 Loading sounds...
  64.694 Info PlayerData.cpp:564: Cloud player-data.json available
  64.768 Post-data load graphics options: [Light occlusion: YES]
  65.526 Initial atlas bitmap size is 16384
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  65.634 Created an atlas bitmap (size 8192x6096) [terrain-effect-map, mipmap, linear-minification, linear-mip-level]
  65.634 Created an atlas bitmap (size 8192x2800) [mipmap]
  65.634 Created an atlas bitmap (size 8192x4544) [mipmap]
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  65.685 Created an atlas bitmap (size 4096x336) [icon-background, not-compressed, mipmap, linear-minification, linear-magnification, linear-mip-level, ]
  65.685 Loading 3D bitmaps: 21
  66.526 Texture processor created (4096). GPU accelerated compression Supported: yes, Enabled: yes/yes. Test passed. YCoCgDXT PSNR: 35.83, BC3 PSNR: 33.82
  66.783 Parallel sprite loader initialized (threads: 15, bitmaps: 8793)
 119.229 Sprites loaded
 119.688 Generated mipmaps (4) for atlas [4] of size 16384x16032   
 119.931 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [13] of size 16384x4368   
 120.159 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [14] of size 4096x3040   
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 120.756 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [21] of size 3504x768   
 120.762 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [22] of size 4096x3152   
 120.797 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [23] of size 4096x3152   
 120.806 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [24] of size 4096x3152   
 120.830 Generated mipmaps (5) for atlas [25] of size 8192x3904   
 120.837 Generated mipmaps (3) for atlas [30] of size 8192x5216   
 120.846 Custom mipmaps uploaded (3517)
 120.898 Estimated VRAM usage for textures: 3963.35 MB (Atlases: 3755.80 MB, Textures: 207.56 MB)
 120.902 Custom inputs active: 1
 121.297 Factorio initialised
 121.386 Steam Storage Quota: 23482/23841
 124.088 Loading map C:\Users\marcus.SORAFAMILY\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\_autosave1.zip: 26841963 bytes.
 124.387 Loading level.dat: 89131748 bytes.
 124.387 Info Scenario.cpp:152: Map version 2.1.14-1
 126.695 Loading blueprint storage: Local timestamp 1786133349, Cloud timestamp 1786133366
 127.511 Loading script.dat: 2095 bytes.
 127.519 Checksum for script __level__/control.lua: 816093757
 127.522 Checksum for script __red-calc__/control.lua: 530024648
 140.832 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished
 445.652 Info AppManager.cpp:335: Saving to _autosave2 (blocking).
 446.558 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished

...

100597.218 Info AppManager.cpp:335: Saving to _autosave3 (blocking).
100598.114 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished
100777.263 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:1454: Deleting active scenario.
100777.268 Info BlueprintShelf.cpp:723: Saving blueprint storage.
100777.690 Saved blueprint storage to cloud
100778.411 Loading map C:\Users\marcus.SORAFAMILY\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\June 29 2026 - 43.zip: 26788113 bytes.
100778.750 Loading level.dat: 89795188 bytes.
100778.750 Info Scenario.cpp:152: Map version 2.1.14-1
100781.429 Loading blueprint storage: Local timestamp 1786685566, Cloud timestamp 1786685566
100782.448 Loading script.dat: 2095 bytes.
100782.551 Checksum for script __level__/control.lua: 816093757
100782.554 Checksum for script __red-calc__/control.lua: 530024648
100981.251 Info AppManager.cpp:335: Saving to _autosave2 (blocking).
100982.208 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished

...

154449.363 Info AppManager.cpp:335: Saving to _autosave1 (blocking).
154450.248 Info BlueprintShelf.cpp:723: Saving blueprint storage.
154450.668 Saved blueprint storage to cloud
154450.734 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished
154753.755 Info AppManager.cpp:335: Saving to _autosave2 (blocking).
154754.656 Info BlueprintShelf.cpp:723: Saving blueprint storage.
154755.066 Saved blueprint storage to cloud
154755.115 Info AppManagerStates.cpp:2131: Saving finished
154970.031 Time travel logging:
83573.031 Popped blueprint record (player-index: 0, ID: 410)
100777.263 Scenario is being deleted
154566.633 Popped blueprint record (player-index: 0, ID: 411)
154970.031 Error CrashHandler.cpp:476: Exception Code: c0000005, Address: 0x00007ff6cf405d40
ModuleBase: 0x00007ff6ce7d0000, ImageSize: 030dc000, RelativeAddress: 00c35d40
154970.031 Error CrashHandler.cpp:482: Access Violation: Read at address FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
154970.031 Error CrashHandler.cpp:496: Exception Context:
rax=0000022f838c03f0, rbx=392a83ce3928223d, rcx=000000000000000e,
rdx=0000000016ef0282, rsi=0000022f009c7640, rdi=0000000000000000,
rip=00007ff6cf405d40, rsp=000000aede23ea70, rbp=000000aede23eac0,
 r8=000000009875beda,  r9=00000000016ef028, r10=0000000000000030,
r11=00000000c639875b, r12=0000000000000001, r13=0000000000000000,
r14=0000022f0c26af90, r15=0000022f838c1208
154970.031 Crashed in D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Factorio\bin\x64\Factorio.exe (0x00007ff6ce7d0000 - 0x00007ff6d18ac000)
Factorio crashed. Generating symbolized stacktrace, please wait ...
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\libraries\StackWalker\StackWalker.cpp(924): StackWalker::ShowCallstack
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Util\Logger.cpp(343): Logger::writeStacktrace
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Util\Logger.cpp(385): Logger::logStacktrace
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Util\CrashHandler.cpp(156): CrashHandler::writeStackTrace
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Util\CrashHandler.cpp(528): CrashHandler::SehHandler
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB18AF613)
00007FFAB18AF613 (KERNELBASE): (filename not available): UnhandledExceptionFilter
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB45A93A0)
00007FFAB45A93A0 (ntdll): (filename not available): strncpy
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB455F933)
00007FFAB455F933 (ntdll): (filename not available): _C_specific_handler
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB45A4ABF)
00007FFAB45A4ABF (ntdll): (filename not available): _chkstk
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB4485E97)
00007FFAB4485E97 (ntdll): (filename not available): RtlLocateExtendedFeature
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB45A43FE)
00007FFAB45A43FE (ntdll): (filename not available): KiUserExceptionDispatcher
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Map\ConsistencyScraper.cpp(60): ConsistencyScraper::step
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Map\ConsistencyScraper.cpp(39): ConsistencyScraper::step
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Game.cpp(226): Game::update
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Scenario\Scenario.cpp(1219): Scenario::update
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Scenario\Scenario.cpp(1130): Scenario::updateStep
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\MainLoop.cpp(1471): MainLoop::gameUpdateStep
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\MainLoop.cpp(1265): MainLoop::gameUpdateLoop
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\BuildTools\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\functional(884): std::_Func_impl_no_alloc<`MainLoop::mainLoopStep'::`2'::<lambda_1>,void>::_Do_call
C:\Users\build\AppData\Local\Temp\factorio-build-s8noVL\src\Util\WorkerThread.cpp(71): WorkerThread::loop
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\BuildTools\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\thread(61): std::thread::_Invoke<std::tuple<void (__cdecl*)(ParallelDesyncReportCreator *),ParallelDesyncReportCreator *>,0,1>
minkernel\crts\ucrt\src\appcrt\startup\thread.cpp(97): thread_start<unsigned int (__cdecl*)(void *),1>
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB2D1CCB7)
00007FFAB2D1CCB7 (KERNEL32): (filename not available): BaseThreadInitThunk
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FFAB44EAD6C)
00007FFAB44EAD6C (ntdll): (filename not available): RtlUserThreadStart
Stack trace logging done
154974.054 Info ConsistencyScraper.cpp:51: random check: surface nauvis, chunk [-11, 30], entity <nullptr>
154974.054 Error CrashHandler.cpp:163: Map tick at moment of crash: 145956786
154974.152 Info CrashHandler.cpp:291: Executable CRC: 3490230632
154974.152 Error Util.cpp:95: Unexpected error occurred. If you're running the latest version of the game you can help us solve the problem by posting the contents of the log file on the Factorio forums.
Please also include the save file(s), any mods you may be using, and any steps you know of to reproduce the crash.
154991.510 Uploading log file
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Re: [2.1.14] Crash when applying blueprint, then changing circut value after long run (est 43 hours)

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when i changed the circut on reload the crash did not happen again.
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Re: [2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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The crash is a corrupt pointer which statistically means you have bad or failing hardware. There’s always an extremely rare chance there’s an engine bug, however this logic runs virtually every tick for every person playing Factorio so it seems unlikely.

Do you know of any way to reliably reproduce it?
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Re: [2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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No, I was under the impression this error was caused by the total execution time of the process. or at least it was a contributing factor.

I don't think this is a problem that needs to be addressed. as you described it, it seems without a predictable pattern of reproduction, there's nothing either of us can do.

I'll be on the lookout for reproducibility. and repost/update if something comes along with repeatable results for me.

Thanks for filling me in.
keep up the great work.

NOTE: this is the second crash in all my years (16k hours of playtime, not all with me at the controls :D) playing and the first one I couldn't explain. Great work! :D
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Re: [2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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You are running Kingston memory sticks at 2400 instead of 2666 MT/s. Any reason for that? Is it failing at nominal speed, or just your omission after some BIOS update?
Do they pass memtest86 at 2666 MT/s?
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Re: [2.1.14] Crash applying blueprint then changing circuit value (random check fails)

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thank you for this thought. I was going to leave it as is but now with this mentioned (Memory speed being lower than expected the max allowed) I should look into this.

it's going to take me some time to run this test (memtest) as this is my primary pc and i don't have a backup PC that can keep me working while the test runs.

I'll post back here the results.

as for "How" I do believe this may be a misconfiguration. a long while ago i did play around with bios settings and may have inadvertently altered this one. I was playing around with bios settings. but I believe most of those were interface (USB, PCIE, etc) settings. I believe I reset CMOS After that but I could be wrong. as my memory (mental), that memory(mental rememberance) was from over a year ago.

I haven't experienced any other issues. (random crashes [os or applications], failures [hardware or software], mem-dumps, my minidump folder is empty) but it's not to say that this isn't the start (first) symptom of a failing system.

I do leave my system running nearly 24-7, my last recorded longest runtime was 28 days, and the time before that was 16 days. usually only restarting when an update is REQUIRED or power goes out. I'm aware of the issues this can cause. (no advice on this is needed, thanks)

I play Factorio in such a way that I, Do a thing. leave it running to let it clog, come back and clean it up, leave it running and can rinse and repeat this process for days.

Again, Thank you so much for the advice.

either way look forward to a response. positive or negative
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