Friday Facts #443 - More Planet Deliveries

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Is it just me or doesn't it look like Unloading Bay is actually taking up 3x5, instead of 4x5? :)
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Where has Gleba's anus gone?
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Meehael wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 8:11 am Is it just me or doesn't it look like Unloading Bay is actually taking up 3x5, instead of 4x5? :)
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This is due to the Factorio Art Style requiring you to be able to see behind buildings. It would be really bad if Buildings obstructed the view of what is behind them. (seen that with some of Angel's Roboports, it was annoying to say the least)
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I just realized something, what happens if multiple Labs try to control the selected Science?

For example, in the earlygame for a Speedrun or so, you have a cluster of blueprinted Labs, each has one specific Science selected. Will it select a random science of the possible ones available if there is multiple conflicting Labs?

Obviously, there is gonna be easy ways to just configure a single lab to have a giant science queue for a speedrun, but I am still curious what happens in a conflict between labs.
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I'd love to play a version with this style of sprites
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GregoriusT wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:08 am I just realized something, what happens if multiple Labs try to control the selected Science?

For example, in the earlygame for a Speedrun or so, you have a cluster of blueprinted Labs, each has one specific Science selected. Will it select a random science of the possible ones available if there is multiple conflicting Labs?

Obviously, there is gonna be easy ways to just configure a single lab to have a giant science queue for a speedrun, but I am still curious what happens in a conflict between labs.
I also asked this question. No answer yet :(
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Merssedes wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:16 am
GregoriusT wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:08 am I just realized something, what happens if multiple Labs try to control the selected Science?

For example, in the earlygame for a Speedrun or so, you have a cluster of blueprinted Labs, each has one specific Science selected. Will it select a random science of the possible ones available if there is multiple conflicting Labs?

Obviously, there is gonna be easy ways to just configure a single lab to have a giant science queue for a speedrun, but I am still curious what happens in a conflict between labs.
I also asked this question. No answer yet :(
From the information given and no information about conflicting settings, a meta puzzle arises.

Assumption: there was enough information given.

So the research conditions are shared across all labs. It's all still one global research queue, now with a condition for each research. The same as with the schedule for a given train group: if you change the schedule for one train, you change it for all trains within the group.

If different labs activate different conditions, the topmost activated research, seen across all labs, wins.
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Hi, I was a big fan of the trains in the game, In version 1.0, I had bases with over 100 trains, but in version 2.0, I've already far surpassed my old bases without even using a single train, belts are a better option, So, it's very clear to me that the trains need improvement, but increasing capacity by 30% per quality level isn't enough, I'd vote for a 100% increase in capacity per level, Although, to save screen space, would it be possible for the quality level to increase the stack size of the object rather than the capacity?

Reading the FFF (Final File File), there could also be a machine that loads and unloads the train faster, storing the objects inside.

Something similar to the oil pump that connects from above, a huge vacuum cleaner for very fast loading and unloading. Furthermore, its design would be focused on allowing a greater number of inserters to surround it than if they were used directly with the train, to unload all its contents onto the conveyor belts.
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Usul wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2026 11:31 am Ingame cloud animation are very mismatching to depiction of clouds on the background planets.
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Literally Unplayable! :D
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Nomadic Steppe wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:37 am Reading the FFF (Final File File), there could also be a machine that loads and unloads the train faster, storing the objects inside.

Something similar to the oil pump that connects from above, a huge vacuum cleaner for very fast loading and unloading. Furthermore, its design would be focused on allowing a greater number of inserters to surround it than if they were used directly with the train, to unload all its contents onto the conveyor belts.
A top-loader for directly inserting items from belts built on top of rails and a bottom-unloader that can only be placed below elevated rails for quick unloading of items directly onto belts. That would be the dream.
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Guys... this was a really long post, and the next will be numbered 444... we may be about to witness the final FFF. Thank you devs for the best game I've ever played, and every single change in the last 3 FFFs. (except landmines, I've never used them).
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Awesome changes. I can not wait to play Factorio 2.1.

The only thing I'm missing that is still on my wish list for Factorio 2.1 is being able to insert blue chips/LDS and rocket fuel into the rocket silo's without the logistic network. Due to the fact rocket silo's use blue chips, LDS and rocket fuel for the construction of rocket's itself, you can not ship these items to a platform without using the logisctic network. But in really big bases the logistic network is a very sub-optimal way to load rocket silo's at large scale. At the same time, especially end-game, and when producing legendary items, you need a lot of blue chips and LDS on aquilo, requireing mass production of those items on other planets and being shipped to aquilo. The only way for me to handle this amount of throughput of blue chips and LDS to other planets was with a mode that lets you construct the rocket in assemblers. My last wish is for a solution that solves this natively in Factorio 2.1.
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Can we have some non-clownish way to void liquids please?
Like pumping molten copper directly into lava/ammonia into ocean.
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Extending loading bay range with an infinite promethium research feels like an absolutely perfect fit to me, it'd allow megabasers to do what they do best while not interfering with your choice of range for the vast majority of players and also make it feel less arbitrary!
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since when you can connect fluid wagon diagonally?
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darekols wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 4:06 pm since when you can connect fluid wagon diagonally?
you cant! (yet)
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darekols wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 4:06 pm since when you can connect fluid wagon diagonally?
That’s one of the announcements of this FFF. In curses curves too!
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GregoriusT wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:08 am I just realized something, what happens if multiple Labs try to control the selected Science?

For example, in the earlygame for a Speedrun or so, you have a cluster of blueprinted Labs, each has one specific Science selected. Will it select a random science of the possible ones available if there is multiple conflicting Labs?

Obviously, there is gonna be easy ways to just configure a single lab to have a giant science queue for a speedrun, but I am still curious what happens in a conflict between labs.
I’m going to assume there’s a single, global, research conditions queue and all labs share it. So you’re either manually selecting research, or the single condition set handles it.
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Aquilo looks oddly unlike anything how Aquilo would look, the in-game research - easier seen on the wiki - is depicting the ammonia ocean covered planet that it is, with the occasional ice island, here tho it looks more like a gas giant you could not even land on...
I'm aware, this might just a small nitpick, but it immediately stood out to me.
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Tricorius wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 6:08 pm
GregoriusT wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:08 am I just realized something, what happens if multiple Labs try to control the selected Science?

For example, in the earlygame for a Speedrun or so, you have a cluster of blueprinted Labs, each has one specific Science selected. Will it select a random science of the possible ones available if there is multiple conflicting Labs?

Obviously, there is gonna be easy ways to just configure a single lab to have a giant science queue for a speedrun, but I am still curious what happens in a conflict between labs.
I’m going to assume there’s a single, global, research conditions queue and all labs share it. So you’re either manually selecting research, or the single condition set handles it.
Then I am curious as to how it handles multiple labs being connected with a wire, when the whole pop up window shows up to show the culprit of why you cant queue any science.
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