Roboports should output missing materials to circuit network / Roboports emit signals with missing blueprint items
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Re: Roboports should output missing materials to circuit network / Roboports emit signals with missing blueprint items
I just got here, did the devs ever mention why this isn't a thing? This has been asked for since 2017, weird that 8 years later it's still not implemented.
Re: Roboports should output missing materials to circuit network / Roboports emit signals with missing blueprint items
For performance reasons - viewtopic.php?p=640416LauraD2423 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:37 am I just got here, did the devs ever mention why this isn't a thing? This has been asked for since 2017, weird that 8 years later it's still not implemented.
The full list is not know by the game and would need to be computed each tick in a very performance heavy way. Because of that, it is not included.
Re: Roboports should output missing materials to circuit network / Roboports emit signals with missing blueprint items
Hey,
So for years I've wanted this functionality as well (to set up remote outposts that auto-request delivery of missing requests). I've used Ghost Scanner at various times in small networks when the performance impacts were acceptable (many to the original author of Ghost Scanner and all those maintaining various updated forks of the mod!)
In the distant past, I had also looked at an alternative approach - scanning the 'missing construction requests' alert output and converting that to signals. But at the time the alert API in Lua was so limited I gave up (this was well before the 1.0 release, etc.)
Seeing Factorio 2.0's improved alerting behavior in the UI made me go re-check the Lua API and I was pleasantly surprised to see a nice full and well-rounded API! But, it seems that actually the API was improved well *before* 2.0. Eventually this led me to finally stumble on a mod that already exists doing exactly what I was thinking (albeit, via a MUCH more complicated algorithm than I was even thinking to minimize UPS impacts):
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/AlertScanner
I had missed it so far because it was only available for 1.1 not 2.0. And it was 'new enough' that I missed it back in my older Factorio days.
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I pinged the mod author to ask some questions about why he did various things in the logic because I was interested in trying to either port it to 2.0 or make a similar mod on my own. But, as a result, the author took the initiative to update the mod for 2.0. Super service!! Thanks @Platinius <3
I still have to seriously try it out. I did at least verify that it seems to work and output signals. It has the downside of clearing missing construction alerts for "monitored networks" but that maybe is acceptable?
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Just thought I'd post this for reference. Both approaches (Ghost Scanner and Alert Scanner) are of course valid and have various upsides and downsides. But I felt I was monitoring this general problem / thread / solutions pretty carefully and yet I never spotted the Alert Scanner mod till today. So I figure maybe y'all would be in a similar boat, too.
So for years I've wanted this functionality as well (to set up remote outposts that auto-request delivery of missing requests). I've used Ghost Scanner at various times in small networks when the performance impacts were acceptable (many to the original author of Ghost Scanner and all those maintaining various updated forks of the mod!)
In the distant past, I had also looked at an alternative approach - scanning the 'missing construction requests' alert output and converting that to signals. But at the time the alert API in Lua was so limited I gave up (this was well before the 1.0 release, etc.)
Seeing Factorio 2.0's improved alerting behavior in the UI made me go re-check the Lua API and I was pleasantly surprised to see a nice full and well-rounded API! But, it seems that actually the API was improved well *before* 2.0. Eventually this led me to finally stumble on a mod that already exists doing exactly what I was thinking (albeit, via a MUCH more complicated algorithm than I was even thinking to minimize UPS impacts):
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/AlertScanner
I had missed it so far because it was only available for 1.1 not 2.0. And it was 'new enough' that I missed it back in my older Factorio days.
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I pinged the mod author to ask some questions about why he did various things in the logic because I was interested in trying to either port it to 2.0 or make a similar mod on my own. But, as a result, the author took the initiative to update the mod for 2.0. Super service!! Thanks @Platinius <3
I still have to seriously try it out. I did at least verify that it seems to work and output signals. It has the downside of clearing missing construction alerts for "monitored networks" but that maybe is acceptable?
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Just thought I'd post this for reference. Both approaches (Ghost Scanner and Alert Scanner) are of course valid and have various upsides and downsides. But I felt I was monitoring this general problem / thread / solutions pretty carefully and yet I never spotted the Alert Scanner mod till today. So I figure maybe y'all would be in a similar boat, too.
Re: Roboports should output missing materials to circuit network / Roboports emit signals with missing blueprint items
Although it would be nice, I doubt they can achieve this due to the way the game combs through ghosts. The numbers being spit out of such an interface would be unreliable. Making it reliable would be a disasterous hit on UPS as they would have to stop processing ghosts a chunk at a time and consider all ghosts in all chunks at all times.