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Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality

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Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality in an electromagnetic plant on Gleba. See image, there are no speed modules in vicinity, and there should be a 13% quality rate, but there is a 0% quality rate with 40 samples. Statistically, this is impossible. Please test and fix.
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Re: [2.0.23] Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality

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I believe the chance of that happening is (1-0.13)^(40/1.5) ~ 2.4%. Quite unlikely, not impossible.
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Re: Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality

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It is even more likely, since it's only 27 crafting cycles with the built in 50% productivity.

"Products finished" includes productivity extras

I'd rephrase it to "unlikely, but quite possible"
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Re: Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality

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GrumpyJoe wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:02 am It is even more likely, since it's only 27 crafting cycles with the built in 50% productivity.

"Products finished" includes productivity extras

I'd rephrase it to "unlikely, but quite possible"
That productivity bonus is already included in Muche's calculation. ;)

But yeah, that's probability for you. In the long run it will even out, but long streaks can and will happen.
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Re: Quality 3 modules cannot be made quality

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Premu wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:27 am
That productivity bonus is already included in Muche's calculation. ;)
Im not someone who recognises what's what in a math formula, but I saw the 40.

I'm pretty sure that upcycling always happens for both items when prod+quality kicks in, therefore I'd calculate with crafting cycles, not total items gained.

Would need a longer explanation if I took a wrong turn in my brain :lol:


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Just spotted the division by 1.5
So yeah, pretty accurate. I can calculate the 27 in my head, the 26.666 will be accurate enough for 1000s of cycles :twisted:
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