Allow option to import item from more than 1 planet to platform without duplicating the request

[Erichteia]

TL;DR

Add option to import items from more than 1 planet to the space platform.

What?

Unless I’m mistaken, you can only import materials from a single planet per request. If you want to import it from another planet, you need to duplicate the request (and thus potentially double the amount of that item you can have on board.

I would like to add the option to select more than 1 planet an item can be imported from per request. And even add the option ‘any planet’. And if you allow me some feature creep, even add the option ‘any planet that has more than x of that material’. This makes it much more feasible to automatically redistribute materials over planets without accidentally overflowing your storage.

Why?

This is mostly for building materials. I want the platform to stock up on them anywhere they are available, without ever requesting more than 1 stack of them. As an example: My main base is split on Fulgora and Vulcanus. And I really don’t care which one makes my assembler 3’s I want to export to Gleba.

I even think ‘any planet’ should maybe be default for all materials that can (and generally are) created anywhere. Although that would make it easier to accidentally create a loop, so keeping these ones by default Nauvis only is fine

[Niizuki]

tl dr
allow import on platform from any planet

why
some items could be imprted from anywhere where they are present

[Tinyboss]

Then you need to have it available on every planet, otherwise the "all requests satisfied" condition becomes useless. I think it would add confusion and hassle.

[Blailus]

I'm battling the same issue currently. I'm semi solving it by taking a stop back by Nauvis because it doesn't take any more time than changing all of my materials import from repeatedly. Feels bad, and I was genuinely surprised that it wasn't an option to remove the filter, or add a 2nd planet.

[Xellnix]

+1 either a option to enable "black/whitelist" for the planet slot and a option for "any" or free selectable locations

i have platforms that just suck resources from every planet, or should resupply from each location, resulting in multiple groups with doubled settings like:

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the platform loads the needed items for crafting quantums at the different locations, but also unloads quantums if needed at the planets, to prevent dropping the ingredients i need to set 0 requests for each planet, with a more advanced planetary selection i would be able to cut that list down to 2 groups

[Tinyboss]

I would like to add the option to select more than 1 planet an item can be imported from per request.

Just a thought, I think that would become "more than one planet an item MUST be imported from", unless you don't use the "all requests satisfied" condition. If that item isn't available on Fulgora, the ship will wait there until it is, rather than going on to Nauvis where it is available.

Not sure if that's your vision, but I just wanted to bring it up.

[Zaflis]

i have platforms that just suck resources from every planet, or should resupply from each location, resulting in multiple groups with doubled settings like:
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You don't need 0/0 "requests" on platforms at all really, just request everything from the planets landing pad. Or i am somehow confusing why you need platform to decide if item should be dropped instead of the planet based on its reserves?

To say it in other words, landing pad is a "passive buffer chest" in terms of logistics where it only requests items from platforms. Its storage priority to logistics network is lower than (red) passive provider chests, i presume.

[Xellnix]

i have platforms that just suck resources from every planet, or should resupply from each location, resulting in multiple groups with doubled settings like:
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You don't need 0/0 "requests" on platforms at all really, just request everything from the planets landing pad. Or i am somehow confusing why you need platform to decide if item should be dropped instead of the planet based on its reserves?

To say it in other words, landing pad is a "passive buffer chest" in terms of logistics where it only requests items from platforms. Its storage priority to logistics network is lower than (red) passive provider chests, i presume.

well the planets do request the ingredients too on their own from other platforms, but as i want to produce quantums at the platform, so i need these 0/inf requests to keep the stuff up

[Erichteia]

I would like to add the option to select more than 1 planet an item can be imported from per request.

Just a thought, I think that would become "more than one planet an item MUST be imported from", unless you don't use the "all requests satisfied" condition. If that item isn't available on Fulgora, the ship will wait there until it is, rather than going on to Nauvis where it is available.

Not sure if that's your vision, but I just wanted to bring it up.

Well, must is a big word. The filter will say 'hey, this is an item that you are lacking and I am allowed to import it from this planet'. Whether you want the ship to wait until the request is satisfied or not, only relies on the wait conditions of the ship. So if you put an 'all request satisfied', it will wait until it has all of the materials. If you put 'wait until these specific items are satisfied and then continue' it will fill up all other items if possible, but just ignore them if they are not in storage.

[BlueTemplar]

I believe there's even currently an interface bug here, as you can clear the planet filter, but it will not be saved once you confirm.

And consider an even simpler use case :
You want the spaceship to waste as little time as possible, waiting for ammo to be fabricated in orbit, so request iron / explosives / ... if it gets too low on those.
(And you don't care where they take them from, «current planet» is what you want.)

[Erichteia]

I believe there's even currently an interface bug here, as you can clear the planet filter, but it will not be saved once you confirm.

And consider an even simpler use case :
You want the spaceship to waste as little time as possible, waiting for ammo to be fabricated in orbit, so request iron / explosives / ... if it gets too low on those.
(And you don't care where they take them from, «current planet» is what you want.)

Not sure whether is a bug though. More protecting players from saying an item cannot be imported from anywhere.

But yes your use case is exactly the type of cases for which it would be nice to import from anywhere

[BlueTemplar]

The bug is that you shouldn't be allowed to clear the planet (when «any/no planet» is not a valid selection yet).

[Foxy_Boxes]

TL;DR

Allow us to select "any planet" (or perhaps multiple planets) as an import location.

What?

Currently each Logistics Request on a ship must come from a single planet. This is fine for shipping goods from location to location, but not for - say - importing repair packs. Instead let us select one or more locations to import from - in the example we'd want to import from any planet when low, without care for which.

Why?

It's quality of life. I *can* set up the same logistic requests five times over to do the same thing, but damn if it isn't tedious AF.

[judos]

+1 had the same idea. I have most production on vulcanos and nauvis. It's annoying to have to request basic materials from both...

[nuhll]

+1

[adisander]

+1 Yes, please!

[armagin]

Yup, this would be super helpful!

[HEROgoldmw]

I personally would recommend a *Any* planet import filter, so you can import from any planet.

To fix the issues where some requests may not be usable due to conditions being based on planets, I would recommend also adding a new condition.
The "Request Group satisfied" condition. And ofc the not satisfied variant.
This group looks at all requests from a certain named request group. This way players can make a request group which is mandatory on all planets, and a group for maybe available on planet items.
The new condition will also fit within the current conditions as it only adds new functionality, and doesn't overshadow or completely make another condition check obsolete.
The new condition would also be slightly dynamic, as when a request group is changed, so are the conditions.

Alternative solution:
Make the import filter a whitelist/blacklist. That way you simply select which planets may send up rockets with required materials for that item. This way you don't import items from a planer, that is also requesting those items. As long as the player has set up their filters correctly.


Personally I suggest adding both, as they would compliment each other, and the game.

[Koub]

[Koub] Merged several threads with the same suggestion.

[nuhll]

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