$50 DLC and no sale is disappointing

[BlueTemplar]

«Half the world» lives on an income of $230/month or less.
There's international pricing — for instance Factorio is currently on sale on Steam at prices going from $45.40 (Switzerland) to $7.22 (Ukraine) — but, a few specific countries aside, I doubt that Wube can afford to find a «fair» price for countries far from Czechia (and it might be out of their hands for third-party sellers like Steam/GoG anyway ?)

Typically people outside of the rich countries get media for much cheaper or even free via piracy anyway. (Which doesn't mean companies selling legal media aren't able to thrive at all !)

(And Factorio is certainly NOT more expensive than Baldur's Gate 1, and while base game + expansion is more expensive than BG3, at least you have more opportunity to try the first «half» before you commit to the second.)

Similarly, for 'DLC' : pretty sure Wube doesn't call Space Age anywhere a 'DLC', but there's only so much pressure they can put on third party sellers like Steam/GoG to change their software.

[MisterDoctor]

And Factorio is certainly NOT more expensive than Baldur's Gate 1

not sure what you mean here; I guess you mean the original price? not even sure what that was. BG1:EE is ~$26 CAD (even less on GoG) on sale for ~$8 CAD. that includes the original expansion and two new expansions.

BG3 is regular $80 CAD on sale for $64 CAD

Factorio with expansion is $90 CAD (and will apparently never be less than that)

[BlueTemplar]

Yeah, I don't know why I added the BG1 bit myself... (because of that CDPR article ??) I blame lack of coffee

[Xorimuth]

(Additionally, it doesn't sound like they are using their philosophy of "we must make it worth the price" with SA. They are going to work on it a bit more and then drop it, from the last FFF. Not iterate on it for a long time like they did with the base game.)

They’ve been iterating on it for 4 years already with a team more than twice the size of what they had for most of 1.0’s development, and if they didn’t think it was worth the price, they wouldn’t have released it. And I’m sure they’ll be iterating on it further for at least a year or two.

[MisterDoctor]

They’ve been iterating on it for 4 years already with a team more than twice the size of what they had for most of 1.0’s development, and if they didn’t think it was worth the price, they wouldn’t have released it. And I’m sure they’ll be iterating on it further for at least a year or two.

I guess it's because of early access. the base game was in EA forever, so I actually played it while it was developed, and they made logical decisions about the gameplay over time. but I suppose 1.0 was not really like that, and now 2.0 is not either. 2.0 is apparently stuck mostly the way it is with no adjustment. it's a much different experience than 0.x to 1.0.

I at least would like to hear them discuss what they think of the state of the game, but the last FFF was very disappointing in that regard. they are basically done with the game. all we can hope for is whatever 2.1 will bring. but I don't expect much.

[IsaacOscar]

2.0 is apparently stuck mostly the way it is with no adjustment. it's a much different experience than 0.x to 1.0.

I at least would like to hear them discuss what they think of the state of the game, but the last FFF was very disappointing in that regard. they are basically done with the game. all we can hope for is whatever 2.1 will bring. but I don't expect much.

2.0 has just come out, and they've been very actively fixing bugs. You need patience.
Also you can't expect a bunch of people to spend their whole lives and business on one thing, especially if their not selling new stuff for it.

[sneeder]

I will say how few hours needed at minimum wage to earn the amount this game cost is a pointless metric without knowing expenses. Especially when half the planet is going through a rental price crisis. Even when I was earning minimum wage; when you work dreary jobs or shift work; you do count those hours. With a library of some ~280 games, even the cheaper ones add up, and this is not cheap.

As others pointed out I felt confident making this post due to game like Dwarf Fortress, a game I willingly bought multiple steam copies for despite it being free due to the sheer amount of work that went it to it and the product quality.

Buddy. You have 300 games on steam. If we estimate conservatively at $10 each, that's still 3000 dollars spent on video games. How many of those do you think were worth buying, now that you've played them all? You... have played all of the games in your library... haven't you? There aren't any games that you bought and just... didn't play, right?

You also bought a free game multiple times. When speaking of nebulous things like value and price, the question must necessarily always be up to the individual, which is fine as far as it goes. But the flip side to that, means that the individual is responsible for their own financial situation. Did you know that there are many professional sports players from the NFL and NBA who have been paid hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of their careers, who have spent almost all of it, and have next to nothing now? Do you think Factorio's price would be disappointing to them? Or would you feel as if it was their fault for letting millions of dollars slip through their hands?

Wealth is largely determined not by how much you make, but by how much you keep, and since you've admitted to buying 300 games on steam, along with multiple copies of an otherwise free game, I have a feeling that you have spent much more than you have kept over the course of your life. I think you would do well to keep things in perspective, be thankful for what you have - and if you feel as though things are too expensive - look to the rest of your spending and seriously consider what is worth your money and ultimately, your time.