Space Age general Questions

[kdmorse]

Oh... Got it, thanks...

[EndOfHistory]

Why doesn't ice spoil into water or just evaporate?

Agreed. The question immediately arises - can the mechanics of "rotting" (which is on Gleba) be changed to something else for other things (evaporation rate, rusting, etc.) in potential mods?

I should be extremely easy to set up, you just change spoil result to some other item ?

(Note how iron&copper bacteria do not spoil into Spoilage !)

Ice might be tricky, because you can't just make it spoil into liquid water (maybe water barrels ??). Could maybe make it spoil into nothing (?), but that lack of feedback would probably be frustrating to the player...

(I wonder if there's a way to make an ice => water barrels => empty barrels (/ steam barrels ?) chain to spoil much faster on Vulcanus ?
And even have water barrels spoil into ice

on Fulgora and the ice planet

?)

It's the same with steam though. In the early game I set up a nuclear power plant with tanks for the steam, and it was only fuelled when the steam ran low...... hot scorching steam..... kept indefinitely in tanks.

My point is that it's just not the ice, and temperature is not just a spoilage mechanic. I think it's a cool idea, and maybe storing ice on Vulcanus should not be a thing .

With that said, I have come to terms with he fact that changing temperature does not seem to be a mechanic in this game except for heat pipes.

[BlueTemplar]

A different use of temperature is actually in the base game, and you have mods (like pYanodons) that fully exploit it by producing steam of many different temperatures, and some machines only accepting a certain temperature range.

(Although I have no idea how merging fluids of different temperatures will work out in 2.0...)

But not temperature equalization with the environment, yeah.

[kitters]

Is there a way to prevent biochambers to gobble up to 5 nutrients?
Biochamber in my case works not constantly. So, even provided completelly fresh nutrients, it produces spoilage. Because while it burns 1 nutrient, other 4 spoils so that adding another 100% fresh to a pile doesn't help - freshness of 5 nutrients drops to zero in time. it would be solved if I can make it grab no more than 1 or 2 nutrients.
I solve other spoil problems with logic (kinda obsessed with new mechanic, challenge myself to not produce spoilage). But this one can't - can't read fuel slot.

[BlueTemplar]

Activate inserters on a timer ?

[kitters]

What's wrong with orbital drop slots? I place stuff here and it takes LONG time for this to be dropped on a planet. Even "inactivity" condition of 30s is not enough, platform moves away without dropping.

[mmmPI]

Probably not enough cargo bay for the throughput

[BlueTemplar]

Yeah, is by any chance your space science platform hogging most of it for no good reason ? (Sadly the default behaviour.)

[kitters]

Probably not enough cargo bay for the throughput

There is a throughput of a cargo bay? wtf?

[BlueTemplar]

Look closer at what is happening with pods (once you've placed cargo bays in addition to the hub / landing pad).

[mmmPI]

There is a throughput of a cargo bay? wtf?

Not sure which size is necessary for it to become obvious but if you want faster throughput of material , you will need more cargo bays ; if you only have 1, it will saturate easily, and you can see the hatch almost always open for a pod.

Ever seen 12 pods dropping at the same time in the same cargo bay ?

nope they drop 1 by 1, so having several cargo-bays will help.

[kitters]

Factoriopedia tells amount of asteroids per minute on different paths in space, but it seems also grow with speed, so how?

At at least early game routes (Nauvis <-> everything else) there is a clearly defined "spike" of asteroids occurrence.
Higher speed makes you reach that spike (and, overall, move from "low spawn chance" area to "high spawn chance") quicker = more asteroids are spawning in faster. Up to a certain point (said "spike"). Which provides an impression that speed actually affects asteroid spawn rate, yes. But the main cause is not the speed but your position on the course instead.
And since asteroids do not despawn even if you've reached 0% occurrence chance for that asteroid type...

Do note that this is a speculation powered by common sense.

That assumption breaks, because you can stop platform in any point, and amount of asteroids drops significantly. To maybe even zero. Even in a spike location.

[kitters]

There is a throughput of a cargo bay? wtf?

Not sure which size is necessary for it to become obvious but if you want faster throughput of material , you will need more cargo bays ; if you only have 1, it will saturate easily, and you can see the hatch almost always open for a pod.

Ever seen 12 pods dropping at the same time in the same cargo bay ?

nope they drop 1 by 1, so having several cargo-bays will help.

I have one cargo bay, and when platform arrives, tree pods start simulteniously, one more a second later. I see more than one pod landing in cargo landing pad/bay simulteniously, phasing through each other.

Problem I encounter - sometimes I have to wait twenty or more seconds for a platform to drop from slots, if I plays stuff in slots manually. Even when it is the only platform, and it doesn't send anythiing else at this time.
It's like situation that occured earlier with constructional bots, when they didn't start build. It's like a slow calculation problem, I think.

[mmmPI]

I have one cargo bay,

It's like situation that occured earlier with constructional bots, when they didn't start build. It's like a slow calculation problem, I think.

I think it's just that you don't have enough cargo bay

[BHakluyt]

Hi, noob question here. Any way to automate bioflux transport from Gleba to Nauvis in batches less than a 1000? Seems robots can only automatically load the rocket when 1000 is loaded, no less...

[mmmPI]

Hi, noob question here. Any way to automate bioflux transport from Gleba to Nauvis in batches less than a 1000? Seems robots can only automatically load the rocket when 1000 is loaded, no less...

You can use the "custom payload" option to load the rocket with less than its maximum capacity

[EustaceCS]

(and no, you can't auto-load mixed items into single rocket. In best case scenario you will have to launch it manually)

[BHakluyt]

Thanks, will search for the custom payload setting...!

[BlueTemplar]

Factoriopedia tells amount of asteroids per minute on different paths in space, but it seems also grow with speed, so how?

At at least early game routes (Nauvis <-> everything else) there is a clearly defined "spike" of asteroids occurrence.
Higher speed makes you reach that spike (and, overall, move from "low spawn chance" area to "high spawn chance") quicker = more asteroids are spawning in faster. Up to a certain point (said "spike"). Which provides an impression that speed actually affects asteroid spawn rate, yes. But the main cause is not the speed but your position on the course instead.
And since asteroids do not despawn even if you've reached 0% occurrence chance for that asteroid type...

Do note that this is a speculation powered by common sense.

That assumption breaks, because you can stop platform in any point, and amount of asteroids drops significantly. To maybe even zero. Even in a spike location.

I very much doubt it's zero, you're suggesting that they use a different logic than for planets.

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I have one cargo bay,

It's like situation that occured earlier with constructional bots, when they didn't start build. It's like a slow calculation problem, I think.

I think it's just that you don't have enough cargo bay

One cargo bay meaning two hatches in addition to the platform hub's / landing pad's or actually zero cargo bays and a single hatch ?

I guess it might looks like this because the delay for a hatch to 'recharge' isn't shown anywhere (and holds multiple 'charges' ?), and it doesn't seem to be linked to what seems to be '''physically''' possible (you know, multiple pods landing at about the same time when you drop to a planet immediately upon arrival, at the same time as some other stuff you told the platform to trash).

[kitters]

I very much doubt it's zero, you're suggesting that they use a different logic than for planets.

You can try it yourself. I just travel to pick on the 'NAuvis-Gleba" path (1,5k), stopped here, and didn't encounter a single asteroid until I was dragged back at Nauvis.

If I were to gusess after experiments (which i don't want to, I want to HAVE the formula in game or at least on wiki), there is a spawn rate of asteroids beyond camera's reach, which is proportional of speed and constant depends of the location, and asteroids spped is proporional of speed of a platform plus small constant, so that already spawned asteroids slowly dragged to a stationary platform.