rocket silo says "not enough to fill one rocket" when there are multiple rockets for supplies

[limesta]

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Above is an example of current construction logistics requests, and maybe I am being dumb but this is constantly getting in the way of my platform

Hovering over any independent thing, it shows there isn't enough to fill one rocket, here is my current construction state

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and here is my current network state:

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I think this is a bug? There's clearly a rocket's worth of products to be sent up, but with no way to auto load and send rockets, Im stuck waiting until I have 50 platforms except for one case where the rocket sent up 15 with a few cargo spots.

Either this is a bug, or the rocket needs a force fill payload or some form of automated sending

[Rseding91]

Rockets will only auto launch when they have one rockets worth of *one item type*, they will not auto launch mixed payloads.

[limesta]

Yep realized that about 3 minutes after making the post

[sushi_eater]

Rockets will only auto launch when they have one rockets worth of *one item type*, they will not auto launch mixed payloads.

How is this not considered a bug? This is exceptionally janky behavior and interacts very, very poorly with quality. Platforms are a prime candidate for using as well as transporting quality items. In the early/mid game, much of the time there simply won't be enough to fill a rocket with a single item.

When I'm building a platform, I only want a small fraction of a rocket load for most items.

For me, this is by far the biggest complaint I have with Space Age.

I couldn't care less, if the rocket filling algorithm isn't great and rockets are not completely full.

[BlueTemplar]

Yeah, it doesn't work on non-construction mixed requests either, even when exactly half and half rocketfull in the same request.

If you're on that planet, there's the manual workaround of setting up the contents of the rocket yourself, but there doesn't even seems to be a way to just copy them as «ghost requests» to make our life easier ?

[sushi_eater]

In map mode, you can at least place ghost items in a silo that's set for manual (will be delivered by bots). That works almost everywhere, including chests and assemblers.

[BlueTemplar]

Ah, thanks, why didn't I think of that ?!

[EustaceCS]

In map mode, you can at least place ghost items in a silo that's set for manual (will be delivered by bots). That works almost everywhere, including chests and assemblers.

You shoudln't, probably.
Use requester chests w/ common or fast inserters set to grab cap 1.
It'll do everything except actual rocket launch for you. Including automatically filling gaps left by heavier items with more lightweight items.
Bonus points for using request groups to place item orders into requester chest without opening requester chest.
Some wiring might automatize it even further. But even without wiring early-game shipments of less than 50 turrets/centrifuges/common recyclers/other whatnots become much more bearable.

[BlueTemplar]

Ah, even better - but is there any way to copy requests for construction (or a blueprint) as a request group ?

[EustaceCS]

Elbow grease
Which gives more flexibility in SOME cases. Generally that's why I'm proposing request groups.

You can fill shipment order group manually from the very same window with space platform's automatically formed shipment order.
You can fill shipment order from your own inventory, double-checking what you gathered locally (in your inventory) and require locally (through construction bots' "lacking build materials" warning).
You can peek into your tank trunk and fill shipment order there.

Once you've formed your order, fling the checkbox on request group to enable it at entity which should gather stuff.
(and rotate its inserter towards rocket silo after it amassed everything necessary)

[BlueTemplar]

So, I managed to semi-automate it using «some wiring» :
- A second silo that is just there to serve as a giant radar dish to «read orbital requests» : signal A.
- The main silo for things to be delivered, set on «read contents» : signal B, which is then multiplied by -1 for EACH by an arithmetic combinator : - B.
- A 2nd arithmetic combinator that ADDs EACH : A - B = C : now we have a signal giving platform-requested build items not in the silo yet.
- C is sent both to a requester chest on «Set Requests» and an inserter (stack size = 1) set to «Set filters».

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Copy blueprint

[Muche]

[...] is there any way to copy requests for construction (or a blueprint) as a request group ?

You can drag a blueprint from quickbar to the "Add section" button of the logistics configuration. It will add a new section with the items from BP.

[BlueTemplar]

Nice, this will be at least helpful for brand new platforms !
(With still the caveat that you can't start inserting before it has been completely fulfilled, because you have to clear the request before that, hence the combinator logic I set up above.)

[sushi_eater]

Thanks for the workaround suggestions!