This seems a bit strange name of a metric to me. I think that this actually means "Maximum Operation Time" if it is the time it takes for the bot to operate at something at the maximum distance.
Am I misunderstanding?
Bot "Minimum Operation Time"
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It means the minimum amount of time the bot can operate regardless of conditions. Better conditions mean it can operate longer than that base minimum.
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It might be in reference to Aquilo where bots will not work as long due to heavily increased energy costs for operation.
It still sounds weird when you read it.
It still sounds weird when you read it.
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I mouse-over'd over a construction bot recharging at a standard (non-personal) roboport on Aquilo and its info card showed a minimum operational time of 6 seconds, which is the maximum flight time I observed with a stopwatch. I have movement speed bonus rank 8 which is +435% (I can't remember if increased speed decreases flight time or not).
If I hover over the same one inside the roboport on Aquilo, it says 30 seconds, which matches my Factoriopedia entry. I get about 30s of flight time out of them on Nauvis.
I think the tooltip should be changed to "time between charges".
If I hover over the same one inside the roboport on Aquilo, it says 30 seconds, which matches my Factoriopedia entry. I get about 30s of flight time out of them on Nauvis.
I think the tooltip should be changed to "time between charges".
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Sorry to enter an older post, but I thought I would add my "two cents."Nypyren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:47 am I mouse-over'd over a construction bot recharging at a standard (non-personal) roboport on Aquilo and its info card showed a minimum operational time of 6 seconds, which is the maximum flight time I observed with a stopwatch. I have movement speed bonus rank 8 which is +435% (I can't remember if increased speed decreases flight time or not).
If I hover over the same one inside the roboport on Aquilo, it says 30 seconds, which matches my Factoriopedia entry. I get about 30s of flight time out of them on Nauvis.
I think the tooltip should be changed to "time between charges".
For a construction bot on Nauvis (I've yet to go to another planet... I'm being too cautious) I see Speed: 13 + 9.7 km/h and Maximum flying reach: 1095 m. Fortunately, it's easy to convert m to km and back (multiply/divide by 1000). The speed is 22.7 km/h or 22699.98 m/h. That's (gets out calculator) 6.305556 m/s; so it would take about 173.8 seconds to travel 1095 m. That's 2 minutes and 53 seconds, which is equal to the "Minimum Operational Time."
So.... Um... (looks up the definition of minimum), that's definitely NOT the "minimum" operational time, but the "maximum" operational time. Right?
Just in case it was a "language thing" I decided to do a "deep dive." Wube is out of the Czech Republic according to the Factorio Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorio. the Czech Republic has the Czech language (CS in the language selection if anyone is curious), but also speak English, German and Russian according to Czech Universities https://www.czechuniversities.com/artic ... h-language. To test if it was a language thing I changed the language first from English to French (the one I knew I would mostly recognize and be able to type into Google Translate the most easily), then French to Czech. I didn't try German, I didn't want to try and figure out Russian letters so...
The phrasing is the same in the three instances I tested (English, French, and Czech). So... I don't know, maybe a cultural thing?
On my part, I would second Nypyren's idea of rephrasing it to: "time between charges" (maybe add "maximum"?) or simply changing "minimum" to "maximum optimal" operation time.
Realistically the "Minimum Operational Time" would be the time it takes a bot to go from where it's placed to the nearest Roboport or job (and then Roboport).
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