Fluid mixing doesnt work / dupe bug

[cnnewb]

I dont know exactly what i was doing but i was working with sulfur in chemical plants and i accidently somehow mixed water with petroleum, and my 200k petrolem reserved turned to 200k of water.

In the past, it would show a little bit of water with petroleum and i'd just flush the water, but it basically duped the petroleum to water, which is.... not what i want at all.


Sorry im not more help, but this made me really sad, as I have no petroleum now and 1.5m light oil, lol


Thanks for all you do!

[cnnewb]

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I just did it again, turned all my 75k of heavy oil to water :'(((

Added pipe to red circle by accident,.

[cnnewb]

Alright, i got it to do it again, i dont really know what i did different, i cliced it and it said cant mix, cant mix, then i ploopped it down, turned all heavy oil to water again :<
https://youtu.be/_Mcy8ZGNUwQ

Here's a video - it does it approx 4:20 in, i just used my vid card's "last 5 mins capture" thing

[robot256]

This might be due to mixed fluid stashing, which is a nonintuitve way to preserve fluids when you mix them by hiding one of them until the pipe is fully drained of the other one. I hope it gets removed soon.

[BorisOZ]

Your heavy oil tanks emptied, which allowed you to connect the new pipe with water. Because that pipe already had water, the tanks instantly started filling up, and the heavy oil was no longer allowed to leave the oil refineries. In your screenshot, you have two fluid systems connected: heavy oil and water. As soon as the heavy oil empties out of the pipes and tanks, water will instantly replace it. Because the water is coming in constantly, it will never make room for the heavy oil again.


In this part of the picture, you can see that the bottom right heavy oil output is connected to the tank, but the water line is also connected to the same tank.

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[cnnewb]

They were not empty, they were completely full with like 1.4m. It happened twice today, i lost all my oil and petroleum reserves cuz it turned them both into water.

[robot256]

You'll have to provide a log file and save file (preferably before and after this event without a y pipe modifications) in order for others to investigate.

[cnnewb]

This might be due to mixed fluid stashing, which is a nonintuitve way to preserve fluids when you mix them by hiding one of them until the pipe is fully drained of the other one. I hope it gets removed soon.

Why dont they just BOTH go into the pipes and able to flush the little bit of water like before when i somehow accidently mix?

[cnnewb]

You'll have to provide a log file and save file (preferably before and after this event without a y pipe modifications) in order for others to investigate.

Where can I find a log file?

[robot256]

You'll have to provide a log file and save file (preferably before and after this event without a y pipe modifications) in order for others to investigate.

Where can I find a log file?

factorio-current.log, one level up from the save files. Typically %appdata%\factorio on Windows or ~/.factorio on linux I think.

[cnnewb]

Here's the log

[Zanthra]

You might be interested in some of the history of fluid anti-mixing in factorio.

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-274
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-312
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-351

Also see in your video at 4:18 https://youtu.be/_Mcy8ZGNUwQ?t=258 that the alt image for heavy oil on the tanks starts flashing because the heavy oil is being consumed faster than it is being produced and the tanks are becoming empty. The moment that you were able to place the pipe was one where the alt mode image of heavy oil was not there, and the pipe was allowed to connect to the empty tank on the other side.

[cnnewb]

This doesnt explain how 1.5mil heavy oil turned into 1.5 mil water just minutes before this though.

I dont have that part on video, but it screwed up things for quite some time.


Fluid mixing in the past had put a little bit of water into the tanks that i could just "Flush", but now instead of having 2 liquids it turns one into the other!


If i catch it on video again ill show you...

[robot256]

Save files would be more useful than video. When you see it happen, pause the game and backup your autosaves. Hopefully you can get a before and after that way.

There's another bug people are reporting that has to do with fluids changing when upgrading Factorio. Any chance your issues coincided with upgrading the server version?

[cnnewb]

Save files would be more useful than video. When you see it happen, pause the game and backup your autosaves. Hopefully you can get a before and after that way.

There's another bug people are reporting that has to do with fluids changing when upgrading Factorio. Any chance your issues coincided with upgrading the server version?

we started a new save file on a server but have been upgrading the server as new versions come out. is that what you mean?