[2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

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[2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

Post by skraalq »

Built a train station on Fulgora, 3-wagons, 4 chests per wagon to buffer scrap.

The inserters show "Waiting for source items" even if the source of the inserter is over the chest. You can even remove an inserter and place it again, with the same result. It won't load the scrap from the chest into the wagon and show that message, even if the chests have scrap. This happens to all inserters on this station.

Now, I've come with a way to fix it. If the locomotive is on auto, and you remove or place a wagon, suddenly all inserters work correctly. I've noticed that if I do this with the locomotive on manual, the bug persists. I attatch the save where you can test all of this, my character is on the mentioned station.

**Another thing I've noticed: if you assign a station with the locomotive in auto (the station only one there is, the one being tested) to the locomotive, the train makes the characteristic braking sound, and the inserters start working. Then if you remove the locomotive, they keep working (you can skip the previous step, if you remove the locomotive from the start, the inserters start working, too). Now, with the inserters working, if you place the locomotive back in place it starts in manual mode, and the inserters keep working. If at this point you switch the locomotive from manual to auto, the inserters stop (which from my pov is absolutely bananas).

I believe this could be related to the curved rails and the slight movement of the wagons depending on various factors. In any case, showing waiting for source items on those inserters is broken (and I believe they should load the wagons).

Thanks for your work.
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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

Post by planetmaker »

Maybe it's a similar issue as the one I experienced. In my case I had the impression the actual train orders for the station with the inserter issue might matter.

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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

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Thanks for the report. The inserters will not interact with the cargo wagons because the train is in automatic mode. They will only interact with cargo wagons if the train is stopped at a train stop set in its schedule or if it's in manual mode.
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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

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Thank you for your quick reply!

The thing is, you can set the train to manual, and the inserters still WON'T interact with the wagons. If you set it to manual, and then remove a wagon, they won't load the wagons either.
BUT if you leave the train on auto, as it is, and then remove a wagon (which indeed puts the train to manual automatically), then the inserters start working.

**All this testing is done removing the last wagon of the train

**Adding a video showcasing the described above

I'm sorry if I'm not understanding something and everything's alright.
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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

Post by Loewchen »

The train is not stopped at the station its just stationary because it has no schedule.
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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

Post by BlueTemplar »

I think they mean that station or no station shouldn't matter if it's in manual mode ?
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Re: [2.0.14] Inserters won't load chest contents to wagons

Post by Rseding91 »

Sorry about that, I was able to reproduce the issue after setting the train to manual mode and it's now fixed for the next release.
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