[Solved] Skip intro but retain the crashsite

[Theis]

I am trying to create a piece of software to aid in creating a TAS, and the freeplay intro cutscene is disrupting.

I have tried:

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script.on_init(function()
    local freeplay = remote.interfaces["freeplay"]
    if freeplay then  -- Disable freeplay popup-message
        if freeplay["set_skip_intro"] then remote.call("freeplay", "set_skip_intro", true) end
        if freeplay["set_disable_crashsite"] then remote.call("freeplay", "set_disable_crashsite", true) end
    end
end)

It does remove the intro, but it also removes the crashsite.

As far as i can tell

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remote.call("freeplay", "set_skip_intro", true)

only skips the pop-up message,
However

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remote.call("freeplay", "set_disable_crashsite", true)

both skips the cutscene and skips spawning the crashsite.

I want to skip the cutscene because it means that the user has to provide inputs and it gets annoying very fast.
I want to retain the crashsite as it provides some difficulty.

Is there anything simple i can do?

[Deadlock989]

I don't know what a TAS is in this context.

Is there anything simple i can do?

Not really, that's the way the freeplay scenario is set up - you can see how it handles those remote calls in Factorio\data\base\scenarios\freeplay\freeplay.lua.

For non-simple solutions you could maybe create your own custom scenario that doesn't use freeplay but does access the crash site resources (Factorio\data\base\prototypes\entity\crash-site.lua) - basically making a modified version of the freeplay scenario that does what you want.

[FuryoftheStars]

I think the No Freeplay Cutscene mod does what you're looking for, so take a look at their code. A brief look, I think they ran into the same issue as you, but defined some additional code that essentially adds the crash-site back if the user opted to skip the cut-scene but not remove the crash-site. The mod author decided it wasn't worth the effort trying to code the reverse (allow the cut-scene but remove the crash-site).

[Theis]

I don't know what a TAS is in this context.

It is short for Tool Assisted Speedrun.

For non-simple solutions you could maybe create your own custom scenario that doesn't use freeplay but does access the crash site resources (Factorio\data\base\prototypes\entity\crash-site.lua) - basically making a modified version of the freeplay scenario that does what you want.

I am not in love with this option. It might eventually be the correct solution, but it would require quite a bit of rewriting.

I think the No Freeplay Cutscene mod does what you're looking for, so take a look at their code.

It does look like it does what I want, thank you.

[ichVII]

If your TAS is set seed anyway, you could just save the game and export as a scenario after you manually skipped the intro. This scenario would then be the startpoint of your TAS.

The issue with that is how to count the final time (do the few seconds during cut scence skip count) and if it did not count, the issue arizes that you might be able to use this in order to wait for the perfect amount of ticks in order to manipulate coal rock RNG. I currently do not see any reason to believe there will be multiple TAS runs less then 10s apart, so the time counting does not seem particularly relevant at the moment.

BTW are you aware of the current TAS wr and the TAS planning/running which Zaspar currently does?

[FuryoftheStars]

If your TAS is set seed anyway, you could just save the game and export as a scenario after you manually skipped the intro. This scenario would then be the startpoint of your TAS.

The issue with that is how to count the final time (do the few seconds during cut scence skip count) and if it did not count, the issue arizes that you might be able to use this in order to wait for the perfect amount of ticks in order to manipulate coal rock RNG. I currently do not see any reason to believe there will be multiple TAS runs less then 10s apart, so the time counting does not seem particularly relevant at the moment.

BTW are you aware of the current TAS wr and the TAS planning/running which Zaspar currently does?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think starting a new map off from a scenario starts with the game.tick = 0. (If that's not what you were referring to, then my apologies, just ignore me.)

[ichVII]

Ok, I do not know how RNG is calculated. If it just depends on the game tick, that would be fine. But if saving as a scenario and then loading changes the RNG, this would be an issue. The amount of coal/stone dropped from coal rocks is a very important number for the first 5mins.

[FuryoftheStars]

Oh, RNG for the resources? These are based entirely on map settings (seed, resource sliders, and water slider (due to water to land ratio, this can cause water to cut into/be where resources would spawn)) and how the game processes those settings (so changes by the devs to map generation logic can cause the same settings to load differently between different versions of the game if a change was made).

That said, a scenario created by converting a save game into a scenario I believe bakes all of those settings into it, and then never gives the player the option to change them when starting a new game with it as the template. As such, they should always start identically on the same version of the game.

But I didn't get the impression that's what the OP wanted? Maybe I'm wrong there, but I thought they just wanted to be able to remove the intro and keep the crash-site, while still allowing the player to adjust their own map settings.

[Theis]

If your TAS is set seed anyway...

While individual TAS are set-seed for obvious reasons, i am not actually building a TAS. I am building a TAS helper, so others can create a TAS.

...you could just save the game and export as a scenario after you manually skipped the intro. This scenario would then be the startpoint of your TAS...

I don't think it is an option to bundle seeds with the TAS helper, just because of sheer variety of viable seeds.

BTW are you aware of the current TAS wr and the TAS planning/running which Zaspar currently does?

I have seen the any% TAS and some of the other TAS' for shorter categories. I have consistent communication with Zaspar

[Theis]

Oh, RNG for the resources?

RNG for huge-rock yields,

But I didn't get the impression that's what the OP wanted? Maybe I'm wrong there, but I thought they just wanted to be able to remove the intro and keep the crash-site, while still allowing the player to adjust their own map settings.

You are correct. I was hoping for an easy option, and have choosen to use/copy the skip cutscene mod. Which have turned out quite good.

[FuryoftheStars]

Oh, RNG for the resources?

RNG for huge-rock yields,

Ohhh. Sorry, misunderstood. Yeah, that may be a standard rng that's not consistent from play-through to play-through, but I haven't cared enough about those to ever test/investigate. I prefer turtling.