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If any of local trolls still have any more illusion as to "who is getting demilitarized"
Russia - 2242, of which: destroyed: 1142, damaged: 41, abandoned: 233, captured: 826
Ukraine - 657, of which: destroyed: 284, damaged: 18, abandoned: 37, captured: 318
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A site on which 5 photos of one tank from different sides are considered as 5 tanks. But it’s clear how Ukrainian propaganda considers Russia’s losses.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:42 pm
A site on which 5 photos of one tank from different sides are considered as 5 tanks. But it’s clear how Ukrainian propaganda considers Russia’s losses.
OMG where

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In the photo - arrival of Ukrainian "Tochka-U" at Tekstilshchik in Donetsk yesterday. In the West, this was presented as a Russian bombing of Ukraine. Ukrainian anti-aircraft missiles no longer fell on houses in Kyiv? Propaganda has to steal photos from other places.

According to the DPR JCCC, a man born in 1981 died as a result of the shelling. Affected:
- a child - 1 year 9 months - in an extremely serious condition;
- child born in 2008 - acute reaction to stress;
- two women - born in 1986 - in serious condition, born in 1944 - acute reaction to stress;
- male - born in 1961 - state of moderate severity.
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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:53 pm
Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:42 pm
A site on which 5 photos of one tank from different sides are considered as 5 tanks. But it’s clear how Ukrainian propaganda considers Russia’s losses.
OMG where
So another fake and old trick to blur with bigger attachment? Compensating for smol pp?
Also there is no investigation regarding why it's Ukrainian, I mean russians proved themselves that they bombed central Donetsk with previous Tochka-U, what make next one different?
It just proves once again that russian military considers Donetsk civilians as Ukrainians and will not stop killing them even if they fail at other fronts.

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gGeorg wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:58 pm
Ukraina army shoot cluster bombs at Donetsk City center, no military targets around, only russian civilans.

Warning - following link is live report of real situation. Contains injured and dead people on streets.
https://odysee.com/@PatrickLancasternew ... uster-bomb
Stop spreading fakes (it's a ballistic rocket not a cluster bomb btw).
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Clearly it flew from SE to NW - from russian army side to Ukrainian army.
I can only guess why russians want to bomb their city, maybe to instil fear into Donetsk citizens and mobilize more troops?
Or maybe it was russians who bombed Donetsk these 8 years all along?

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This is Karolina and her mother Lera.
Carolina is one year old. On March 20, her dad and uncle died in their own backyard. The bodies lay for a week. They lived very close to the center of Mariupol.

One month in the basement. Without water. Tiny socks petrified with mud.

We took them to Donetsk, settled them in a hostel, in a room next to us. Tomorrow we will think about the execution of filtration documents and send them to Rostov.
And yes, of course, "the Russians are taking people out by force."
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Ah yes another russian war crime. Seeing teared faces really looks like taking by force, otherwise they would be happy to escape and see their "saviours", no?

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:21 pm
Ah yes another russian war crime. Seeing teared faces really looks like taking by force, otherwise they would be happy to escape and see their "saviours", no?
When you write an answer, do not forget to refer to the recommendations of your propaganda. You seem to have forgotten to write about the machine gun that the volunteers put to her head.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:25 pm
enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:21 pm
Ah yes another russian war crime. Seeing teared faces really looks like taking by force, otherwise they would be happy to escape and see their "saviours", no?
When you write an answer, do not forget to refer to the recommendations of your propaganda. You seem to have forgotten to write about the machine gun that the volunteers put to her head.
I am not recommending anything here, just bringing up second opinions as you say.

Nothing to add on russians bombing Donetsk with Tochka-U? Giving up too soon bro.

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Okay belgorod investigation is turning interesting:
Following morning military object blow up in belgorod several rockets landed in rural areas:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rin8JHEaRVM
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a) https://www.google.com/maps/@50.4022511 ... 312!8i6656
b) https://www.google.com/maps/@50.4019208 ... a=!3m1!1e3
Google panorama is from 2013 (a), but you can see same tree line in the back; and similar building with "watchtower" on google maps (b).
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Rocket was lanched from russia :D

I have some question for our dear russian users:
Why russians are bombing their own russian oil depots and rural areas with rockets?
If it is not russian then why famous Kalibrs are so bad that they drop in random places in russia shortly after launch?

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:51 pm

Rocket was lanched from russia :D

I have some question for our dear russian users:
Why russians are bombing their own russian oil depots and rural areas with rockets?
If it is not russian then why famous Kalibrs are so bad that they drop in random places in russia shortly after launch?
An interesting version, only this rocket looks like an anti-aircraft.

"famous Kalibrs" look like this :
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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:22 pm
enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:51 pm

Rocket was lanched from russia :D

I have some question for our dear russian users:
Why russians are bombing their own russian oil depots and rural areas with rockets?
If it is not russian then why famous Kalibrs are so bad that they drop in random places in russia shortly after launch?
An interesting version, only this rocket looks like an anti-aircraft.

"famous Kalibrs" look like this :
Anti-aircraft rocket 3m+ long with wings on sides? You sure?

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:19 pm
Clearly it flew from SE to NW - from russian army side to Ukrainian army.
I can only guess why russians want to bomb their city, maybe to instil fear into Donetsk citizens and mobilize more troops?
generally an interesting version. but with the "point y" there is a nuance, before hitting the target, it does not fly in horizontal, it flies down to the ground, so the accuracy is better.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:39 pm
enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:19 pm
Clearly it flew from SE to NW - from russian army side to Ukrainian army.
I can only guess why russians want to bomb their city, maybe to instil fear into Donetsk citizens and mobilize more troops?
generally an interesting version. but with the "point y" there is a nuance, before hitting the target, it does not fly in horizontal, it flies down to the ground, so the accuracy is better.
Correct, but when it detonates in air the engine part detaches without any damage and glides safely to surface without any damage in the direction it was launched.

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:25 pm
Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:22 pm
enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:51 pm

Rocket was lanched from russia :D

I have some question for our dear russian users:
Why russians are bombing their own russian oil depots and rural areas with rockets?
If it is not russian then why famous Kalibrs are so bad that they drop in random places in russia shortly after launch?
An interesting version, only this rocket looks like an anti-aircraft.

"famous Kalibrs" look like this :
Anti-aircraft rocket 3m+ long with wings on sides? You sure?
Yes, there are plenty of photos on the Internet. the length of an anti-aircraft missile is from 3 meters and longer.
And too weak explosion after the fall.
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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:19 pm

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There is a problem. If the rocket flew forward, after hitting the ground, it should have glided forward, but the bushes behind this rocket are intact on the photo. It means she was falling straight down. And in such a fall she cannot maintain her position.
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Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:56 pm
There is a problem. If the rocket flew forward, after hitting the ground, it should have glided forward, but the bushes behind this rocket are intact on the photo. It means she was falling straight down. And in such a fall she cannot maintain her position.
What problem? You can clearly see impact marks on asphalt that stopped it.
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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:51 pm
Yes, there are plenty of photos on the Internet. the length of an anti-aircraft missile is from 3 meters and longer.
And too weak explosion after the fall.
Dunno seems about right. One thing you hit rock hard ground, the other is soviet era buildings with no earthquake resistance that crumble under their own weight.
Also aircrafts are not tanks, you dont need explosives to blow them up - you use shrapnel to cut and tear aircraft so it doesnt fly anymore. Yet this one blew up nicely.

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:08 pm
What problem? You can clearly see impact marks on asphalt that stopped it.
If the missile was flying forward in that direction, then the bushes at the back should have been destroyed, due to the fact that the missile was sliding through them. But they are whole. The rocket could have fallen from the other side, but there are few traces. So she fell vertically from above and then she lies as she turned over in the air while she fell.

So the rocket, when it was shot down, was already flying vertically down to the ground. (judging by the description, these missiles do not separate before hitting the target and fall in pieces only if they are shot down)
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