We support Ukraine

[Djmixxx]

The funding is public that wouldn't be very smart of the CIA to publicly fund their propaganda organ they have plenty hidden money for that no ?

this is called compromising ties. which greatly reduces the level of trust in the source of information.

[mmmPI]

The informations are also on the website of the Word Health Organization

You are definitely pro-joker.
Make your homework, and check who pay/own WHO.

Mostly China and the USA ?

[mmmPI]

The funding is public that wouldn't be very smart of the CIA to publicly fund their propaganda organ they have plenty hidden money for that no ?

this is called compromising ties. which greatly reduces the level of trust in the source of information.

compared to the voice of the military press attache of the kremlin ?

[mmmPI]

Just to understand correctly the argument, a team of person who gather pictures and video from instagram tlegram whatsapp and others and make them available publicly for people to check if they are authentic and unmodified, and then report where buildings are destroyed is not to be trusted because one person on a forum said that one page 37 of their book their is a logo of NED which is a branch of the CIA which makes it a compromissing link ?


Also if anyone wants to verify, it's easy to check who fund the WHO, https://www.who.int/publications/i/item ... (eb148-29)
Since public funding is still the way to be transparent and trustworthy no ?


https://extranet.who.int/ssa/LeftMenu/I ... n=Link_who

This should allow one person who is skeptical to count the reported case. This is a public database from WHO where the attack on healthcare system are tracked. In Ukraine since the beginning of the war many hospital were destroyed and they were not getting destroyed before the war, that's not a thing hospital do by themselves.

[Djmixxx]

I don't trust any big information platform or group.
only to volunteers at no cost.

[mmmPI]

well no that's a job, journalist that is

some people do that for a living

[Djmixxx]

This is a public database from WHO where the attack on healthcare system are tracked. In Ukraine since the beginning of the war many hospital were destroyed and they were not getting destroyed before the war, that's not a thing hospital do by themselves.

Why destroy them? What will it give in the future of the war and how will it contribute to the fulfillment of the requirements of Puttin?

Judging by the number of dead doctors, I assume that these buildings were used for non-medical purposes.

[Djmixxx]

well no that's a job, journalist that is

some people do that for a living

So he at least depends on who pays him.

[mmmPI]

Why destroy them? What will it give in the future of the war and how will it contribute to the fulfillment of the requirements of Puttin?

That's not here that you are going to have the answer, one should ask the perpetrators for his motives.

Judging by the number of dead doctors, I assume that these buildings were used for non-medical purposes.

That's a totally reasonnable assumption

[mmmPI]

So he at least depends on who pays him.

yes, that's why when the funding is not from only 1 source it's always better than 1.

Alternatively there are third party sources, like brazilian or Indian journalist for example.

[Djmixxx]

yes, that's why when the funding is not from only 1 source it's always better than 1.

this is called blur. When by a large number of sources create the appearance of independence. It is important that the direction vector of most sources.

[enterisys]

Well, make same, lets fallow money.
https://www.bellingcat.com/
has public finantial statement
https://www.bellingcat.com/app/uploads/ ... -2020p.pdf
which is consist of curious lines like
"Income from other non-profit organizations" which one line without any other detail makes more than half of budget.
They also says: "Bellingcat can solicit or
accept contributions from international or intergovernmental institutions such as the European Commission"
Whiich is LOL.
Another funny moment you get on page 37 of key partners, when you see a company logo of NED which is CIA branch.

I dont know if you are a profesional-agent or an average brainwashed European, but stop confuse other people, ok ?

Income from Dutch Postcode Lottery 14.6%
Income from other non-profit organizations 31.2%
Income from companies 13.3%
Income from intergovernmental organizations 0.2%
Income from individuals 6.2%
Income from workshops 34.2%
Income from keynotes 0.3%

Total income 1.715.624 EUR

Wow so much money

[mmmPI]

It is important that the direction vector of most sources.

please rephrase i'm not sure what you mean here

[gGeorg]

The informations are also on the website of the Word Health Organization

You are definitely pro-joker.
Make your homework, and check who pay/own WHO.

Mostly China and the USA ?

Poor boy
https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors
Major owner of WHO is USA government
with help of United Kingdom, Bill Gates and GAV company which is an supicous NGO lobiing for vaccinaion.
and of course our usual suspect European Comision is also involved.

[enterisys]

a frame from the video and the approximate location of the person who filmed.

Azov steel is bombed. But what's the purpose, there are two versions of events.

Already gave up on hospital? I understand when foreign minister says that there were military targets inside and military office claims that they did not bomb hospital its hard to make your own opinion.

[enterisys]

GAV company which is an supicous NGO lobiing for vaccinaion.

Which means they are run by pharma? Again independent from the other contributors.

[mmmPI]

Poor boy
https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors
Major owner of WHO is USA government
with help of United Kingdom, Bill Gates and GAV company which is an supicous NGO lobiing for vaccinaion.

Thanks you that obviously make them impossible to count how many doctors are injured in war-time. They would of course invent fake death of personnel medical to simulate a war that doesn't exist because it's only a special operation that the western world uses as pretext to put unjustified sanction on russia who is just fighting nazis like everyone should do but the usa is financing them to attack russia with bioweapons now i am richer thank you again for your constructive factual contribution and reasonning that means a lot to me.


I mean that's the other narrative right ? the one with proof and things right ?

[mmmPI]

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/03 ... n-ukraine/

The aim of this project is to detail incidents where there is open source evidence of potential civilian harm in Ukraine, as well as attempting to clarify where and when such events took place. Documenting these incidents is important given claims by the Russian government in particular that it is not seeking to attack civilians and avoid impacting civilian infrastructure.

Readers are invited to explore the map by date and location. It must be noted that only events that have been pictured, captured on video or posted to social media are included in Bellingcat’s dataset. It is likely that there will be many other instances of civilian harm that are not documented on video or on social media and therefore not included in the TimeMap.

Even accounting for that caveat, the number of incidents detailed in our dataset and TimeMap at time of initial publication is already significant.

We will continue to update our dataset and the TimeMap as the conflict progresses. The map will also remain online after the conflict ends.

They do not say they are neutral, the biais is clearly identified in this context. It's transparent on the funding. And the information are factual and public so one can verify.

They DO have an interest into potentially inventing fake case but anyone is free to debunk. That's the sort of thing that is to me more trustworthy than a governemental source.

Edit: If one is still not convinced that those person are doing serious job, one can try to post its own fake picture and report it to the website, to see what they do with it.

[FuryoftheStars]

I feel like because they couldn’t successfully push the narrative that Ukraine is bad, they are now trying to push the idea that any news source that doesn’t say Ukraine is bad (which is probably what? 80-90% of them?) is actually government propaganda.

This thread has turned into diarrhea.

I wonder what they’d say about the theater with the words “children” written outside being bombed.

[enterisys]

I wonder what they’d say about the theater with the words “children” written outside being bombed.

Denazification