Version 1.1.0

[kovarex]

Also, your quoted thread does not talk about the style of the icons, but rather about the meaning of SOME of the icons, and the feedback is quite constructive. This is not a "change is bad!" post.

I wanted to stress that there had been some feedback with the "flat" icon style that the change was not welcome for some cases.

I think that using the same visual terminology to represent the same things through all the game (or software) makes sense, even if it's less fancy. I value functionality over looks, and find the roboport icon (for example) significantly more understandable than the flat wifi-like symbol. Same thing for the power pole, which makes more sense than the flat "electrocardiogram", ...

Without even launching the game, I can guess the use of all the buttons thanks to the icons, except for the pollution, for which there is no other representation ingame. I can assure you that it wasn't the case with the old iconology.

This was exactly my reasoning.

[eradicator]

I think that using the same visual terminology to represent the same things through all the game (or software) makes sense, even if it's less fancy.

Oh yea, i love consistency. All the more i was totally confused by the new train symbol because it looks like a modern-world subway. And that's only *after* i already knew it was supposed to be train related. I.e. it's an abstract symbol for something that's not even in the game.

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Also are those symbols also supposed to become colored? Because now there's this weird break between flat/white symbols and colored icons. And technology even changes between the two depending on if something is being researched or not.

And then there's the thing that colored icons are much larger than the monochrome symbols. I don't have strong preferences for either style. But consitently using the same style everywhere wouldn't make me unhappy...

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[ptx0]

And then there's the thing that colored icons are much larger than the monochrome symbols. I don't have strong preferences for either style. But consitently using the same style everywhere wouldn't make me unhappy...

yeah maybe just making the button background a bit darker to blend in better wouldn't make them stand out like a sore thumb.

[eradicator]

And then there's the thing that colored icons are much larger than the monochrome symbols. I don't have strong preferences for either style. But consitently using the same style everywhere wouldn't make me unhappy...

yeah maybe just making the button background a bit darker to blend in better wouldn't make them stand out like a sore thumb.

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[ptx0]

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[IronCartographer]

Edit: Refocused due to tone-deaf appearance of remaining text in light of neutralized context.

The visual style is good to be consistent, but also worth remembering that if everything is trying to stand out in color, nothing will stand out other than the aggressively vivid colors as a whole. Clear contrast and focus are easily lost with increasing visual noise.

[Koub]

[Koub] Please people, you may disagree as much as you like, but I would appreciate if you kept it calm and civil.

[DrParanoia]

Without even launching the game, I can guess the use of all the buttons thanks to the icons, except for the pollution, for which there is no other representation ingame. I can assure you that it wasn't the case with the old iconology.

That's because you're an experienced Factorio player. A new player won't know what these icons mean since he won't even have the research for these items, so he will need to read the tooltips anyway. And after you read the tooltips once, you will remember the meanings.

With that said, I don't think it was a problem with the style of the icons (flat vs colored), but rather the confusion was caused by the choice of the icons. Most of the colored ones can be replaced by a similar flat icon. Not for me to decide though

P.S.
To be honest, I don't think I'll have any problems with colored icons after they are finished (quality wise)

[GluAp]

I don't know how I manged, but it somehow completly eluded me how to flip bluprints. How do I do this?

nvm - figured it out: It's "F" and "G". Feel's kind of weird, that those controls are listed under "Basic Interaction" (control settings) whereas most blueprint related settings are to be found in "Tools".

[ptx0]

I don't know how I manged, but it somehow completly eluded me how to flip bluprints. How do I do this?

nvm - figured it out: It's "F" and "G". Feel's kind of weird, that those controls are listed under "Basic Interaction" (control settings) whereas most blueprint related settings are to be found in "Tools".

i find myself reverting to Blueprint Flip & Turn mod because the vanilla flip doesn't work with most modded layouts.

[Durentis]

Holy wow.. popped in for a look at the release state and ran into a wall of text. This patch is well beyond epic.

I don't suppose medium poles have had their radius increased by one recently to help keep the power grid tidy and to actually be a good option over having to use two overlapping small poles in so many situations?

[Koub]

Holy wow.. popped in for a look at the release state and ran into a wall of text. This patch is well beyond epic.

I don't suppose medium poles have had their radius increased

They haven't.

[Alwego]

Why was the Rocket silo stats GUI removed? How do we now see how many satellites we've launched?

Press P, search for space science produced, divide by 1000.

I'm here to say how much sad i'm after "Removed the 'Rocket silos stats' GUI". I don't understand the idea to turn off this complete.
I have this from one public server, how much rocket was sended here? 130 000? 130 999?

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[curiosity]

I apologise if this is obnoxious, but I am here to say that I have reimplemented rocket silo stats in my mod (forum thread). It should detect any existing progress, which is actually tracked by the game engine.

[Ifalna]

Poles built by dragging are now actually build on the maximum connection distance from the last built pole instead of the previous logic that was working weird in a lot of corner cases.

....

518hrs of Factorio and I never even fathomed that power poles could be placed that way.

Awesome work, great to see that you're still motivated and keep improving the game!

[tk0421]

Blueprint flipping is CORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

my wishlist is now complete.

[Oscar]

absolutely love everything that is added in this update! thank you devs so much the wonderful job!

one little remark though: is it possible to reduce the size of and may be also add bit of polish to the arrows that now appear when you hoover over the warning signs? IMHO at the moment they still look bit crude.

[noclaf]

Are we going to have 1.1.0 in stable before Christmas? Pretty please!

[Koub]

Are we going to have 1.1.0 in stable before Christmas? Pretty please!

In development, rushing is always a bad idea. Always.

[noclaf]

Práce kvapná, málo platná! Dvakrát měř, jednou releasuj!

I want to start a new vanilla megabase over the Christmas (kids gone, etc ) and I kind-of need some of the 1.0->1.1 improvements to get rid of some annoying stuff I faced in the past. Ježíšek won't bring you any gifts if you are naughty to me!