Honestly never noticed the text change, but the icon size was one of the first things I noticed. If you zoom in the icons are actually smaller, but the tile placements themselves seem bigger.Bilka wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:33 pmFor me, the icons in the new crafting GUI for some reason look smaller. Couldn't figure out why, because they aren't actually smaller. After staring at your screenshots again for a few minutes, it looks like the text is higher up on the icon. Could that also be throwing you off?
It's mainly those placeholder squares, instead of having empty spaces like the old GUI. It really throws my eyes for a looperadicator wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:21 pmMy first reaction was the same as @OP, horrible contrast. After a few hours of play it's "less bad". It's probably akin to the age old "black text on white background" vs "white text on black background" debate (and i like bright background...). Icons with black-on-black blob shadows are especially annoying to look at (causes visual haloing/blurring for me). Though i don't have any illutions that such a major change will just be reverted.
Edit: just noticed that science bottles in inventory don't seem to have blob shadows - that's just the haloing my eyes make up due to the dark background >_>.
To be fair, Krastorio 2 adds a lot of items, and would benefit from having some of them on a new tab. I found mods which have several screen heights' worth of items to scroll through in a tab really annoying even before the GUI update. I can see how the scrolling thing is a new behaviour that makes it worse, but at least part of that is preventable by the mod maker. Vanilla doesn't have any tabs that need any scrolling.CaptainSlide wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:39 pmThe only thing annoying me about it at the moment is that screens that have scrolled don't stick. Let me explain.
I am playing the Krastorio 2 mod ATM. This has added a ton of stuff to make and do. Consequently the crafting queues are extremely long requiring one to scroll down to get to items at the bottom. Ie Landfill which is always at the bottom of the first crafting page. If I the right or left click on the landfill the screen pops back to the top of the page, this is really annoying if you want to click these things at the bottom of screen more than once. I note here that I run the GUI at 125% size so I don't have to strain so much to see the small icons this makes the need to scroll far more acute.
Just a means to turn off the placeholders, or to revert the scheme back would be fine. I doubt I'll be playing any new versions because of it. Not because I'm being picky but I literally can't look at it, had a hard time editing the screen shots even.Deadlock989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:13 pmI mean, we're all different. From the OP's other screenshots, those luminous pink-purple window borders nearly gave me a seizure just from a screenshot.
Wube are never going to please everyone and shouldn't try. You can't have an option for absolutely everything.
Cheerio then.MakeItGraphic wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:32 pmI doubt I'll be playing any new versions because of it.
Certainly more tabs would help, MSI put all the train and vehicle related stuff in a separate tab which is a really good start. Actually this should just be in vanilla now that I think about. Well Maybe the popping back to the top is my machine or mouse then, still annoying though. Not sure about the Krastorio mod yet, I wanted a bit more stuff, but it might have gone a bit to far for me.Deadlock989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:21 pmTo be fair, Krastorio 2 adds a lot of items, and would benefit from having some of them on a new tab. I found mods which have several screen heights' worth of items to scroll through in a tab really annoying even before the GUI update. I can see how the scrolling thing is a new behaviour that makes it worse, but at least part of that is preventable by the mod maker. Vanilla doesn't have any tabs that need any scrolling.CaptainSlide wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:39 pmThe only thing annoying me about it at the moment is that screens that have scrolled don't stick. Let me explain.
I am playing the Krastorio 2 mod ATM. This has added a ton of stuff to make and do. Consequently the crafting queues are extremely long requiring one to scroll down to get to items at the bottom. Ie Landfill which is always at the bottom of the first crafting page. If I the right or left click on the landfill the screen pops back to the top of the page, this is really annoying if you want to click these things at the bottom of screen more than once. I note here that I run the GUI at 125% size so I don't have to strain so much to see the small icons this makes the need to scroll far more acute.
PS. I can't replicate this, anyhow. To get a scrollbar on the Logistics tab, the one that has landfill in it, I have to set the window size to some really wide/thin ratio I would never actually play with - or set the interface gui scaling to beyond 250% on my monitor (4K). Either way, when I click on landfill to craft it, nothing scrolls anywhere.
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Wube could do the same as any other software and offer light (grey) and dark theme.Deadlock989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:13 pmWube are never going to please everyone and shouldn't try. You can't have an option for absolutely everything.
some games allow you to also tweak contrast, which would help here.
They look smaller in the "optical illusion" way. Our eyes/visual cortex isn't a exact measuring instrument. Same thing as, well, all the optical illusions you find circulating the net is at work here.Bilka wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:33 pmFor me, the icons in the new crafting GUI for some reason look smaller. Couldn't figure out why, because they aren't actually smaller. After staring at your screenshots again for a few minutes, it looks like the text is higher up on the icon. Could that also be throwing you off?
They could. Or they could not bother. None of the other 150 games in my library has themes.
