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Solar farm with perfect ratio

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I made this solar farm some time ago and thought I would share it now.
336 / 400 = 0.84 (perfect ratio)
336 / 400 = 0.84 (perfect ratio)
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This blueprint is only 4 * 4 substations big but you can place 4 or even 9 of them in a square and make your own bigger blueprint.



I don't know if you are tired of solar farms tbh. Nuclear power seems to be more popular.
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Solar farms are always good for megabases and saving UPS. This looks quite cool though. Now make us one with Industrial Revolution modded panels and accus? Lol
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BHakluyt wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:08 pm Solar farms are always good for megabases and saving UPS. This looks quite cool though. Now make us one with Industrial Revolution modded panels and accus? Lol
I play vanilla unfortunately but I was kinda interested in IR. Maybe I'll give IR a try after lauchning a rocket in vanilla (This will probably never happen. I played Factorio for about 550 hours and didn't lauch a single rocket...).
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You'll get there, don't worry... I think I launched my first rocket at about 850 hr mark. Although I started playing at a time when one of the sciences couldn't be made even because of some missing recipe or something. Can't even remember anymore.
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Are 11 roboports really needed ?
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Could remove the one in the middle and replace it with a radar. That'll fix the symetry issue.
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Koub wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:42 am Are 11 roboports really needed ?
No, but how would you fill the empty space instead? And more roboports means faster recharging for your bots.
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ZombieMooose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:46 am Could remove the one in the middle and replace it with a radar. That'll fix the symetry issue.
I don't see how that would fix the symmetry issue...
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BrainlessTeddy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:38 am
ZombieMooose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:46 am Could remove the one in the middle and replace it with a radar. That'll fix the symetry issue.
I don't see how that would fix the symmetry issue...
Cause there's 11 roboports.
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ZombieMooose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:16 pm
BrainlessTeddy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:38 am
ZombieMooose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:46 am Could remove the one in the middle and replace it with a radar. That'll fix the symetry issue.
I don't see how that would fix the symmetry issue...
Cause there's 11 roboports.
But having an even number of roboports doesn't make the blueprint symmetrical.
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BrainlessTeddy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:33 am
Koub wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:42 am Are 11 roboports really needed ?
No, but how would you fill the empty space instead? And more roboports means faster recharging for your bots.
Each roboport wastes 1.2 solar panels (+accu) worth of power for passive drain even after the solar field is complete. So about 3% of the area of your blueprint does not supply any power at all to the factory. Conclusion: removing roboports would increase the power-per-space ratio of your blueprint, and you could fill the "empty space" with more panels/accus.
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eradicator wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:08 pm
BrainlessTeddy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:33 am
Koub wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:42 am Are 11 roboports really needed ?
No, but how would you fill the empty space instead? And more roboports means faster recharging for your bots.
Each roboport wastes 1.2 solar panels (+accu) worth of power for passive drain even after the solar field is complete. So about 3% of the area of your blueprint does not supply any power at all to the factory. Conclusion: removing roboports would increase the power-per-space ratio of your blueprint, and you could fill the "empty space" with more panels/accus.
Good point! But when I fill the "empty space" with solar panels and accus the ratio wouldn't be perfect. :D
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Remember that the so-called "perfect" ratio actually means "just enough accumulators to go through the night without brownouts assuming perfectly flat demand" - which it won't be...
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BlueTemplar wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:49 pm Remember that the so-called "perfect" ratio actually means "just enough accumulators to go through the night without brownouts assuming perfectly flat demand" - which it won't be...
Yeah, I know. Maybe I'll remove some roboports from the middle and place some accus instead.
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Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
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eradicator wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:11 pm Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
I prefer having one blueprint you can place and don't have to worry about power production again.
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eradicator wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:11 pm Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
I'm doing the same.
Depending on how crazy I go with lights in my factory, real accu/solar ratio can shift quite a bit towards more accus anyway.
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eradicator wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:11 pm Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
I noticed something with solar panel layouts. Technically a "normal" 18x18 substation in the middle design wastes space,32 to be exact. (I had never thought to fill it with accumulators before seeing the OP's blueprint, oops!) There's a way to use normal power poles to waste less space, but making a three solar wide 10 panel or so tall rectangle of solar panels with power poles in 1x3 gaps up the middle. It's only a little bit of less overall space (more space is taken up by power poles vs substations, but there's less wasted, so slightly higher space efficiency) but in large set-ups it could provide slightly higher density needed.
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BrainlessTeddy wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:31 pm
eradicator wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:11 pm Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
I prefer having one blueprint you can place and don't have to worry about power production again.
You can always take your perfect ratio blueprint but replace every solar panel / accumulator with a field of solar panels or accumulators. Scale it up oh some 100 times.
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mrvn wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:00 am
BrainlessTeddy wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:31 pm
eradicator wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:11 pm Personally i just build solar fields and accu fields seperately, i find that easier to expand.
Accus <10% left after the night? -> more accus.
Accus not 100% full before the night? -> more solars
I prefer having one blueprint you can place and don't have to worry about power production again.
You can always take your perfect ratio blueprint but replace every solar panel / accumulator with a field of solar panels or accumulators. Scale it up oh some 100 times.
Since your consumption of energy is not continuous and perfect, why should your providing ratio should be ?
I try to do 1:0.9 to ensure I have enough accus, and due to laser consumption which is not intended nor predictable.
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