[0.17] Please post bugs and balance issues here.

[Termak]

Cant you just turn off the belt changes though?

[bobingabout]

Cant you just turn off the belt changes though?

yes, in the mod options, startup, Bob's logistics mod section, turn off the Transport belt overhaul.

I think the issue is that the rollback to a previous version reset his settings, and certain saves don't load.

[Light]

I think the issue is that the rollback to a previous version reset his settings

It's certainly a puzzling thing. I've reverted versions several times in the past, yet most of the configuration hasn't changed since I set them when mod settings were implemented. I fear the day it does occur as there's a lot of settings to comb through.

Hopefully the reason for this is eventually found as it seems to happen to some more than others.

[bobingabout]

I think the issue is that the rollback to a previous version reset his settings

It's certainly a puzzling thing. I've reverted versions several times in the past, yet most of the configuration hasn't changed since I set them when mod settings were implemented. I fear the day it does occur as there's a lot of settings to comb through.

Hopefully the reason for this is eventually found as it seems to happen to some more than others.

I've had it happen to me, only when working with source access stuff, but simply changing a branch can put you 30 versions behind. if you compile and run the game in that state, it happens.
fortunately I have a backup copy and just restore mod-settings.dat from an older version.

[pAckmAn4000]

I'm feeling very stupid now. I just realised that the game config is not linked saves. I always thought that once the config is chosen in the start it cannot be changed afterwards...

So I can continue playing Sorry for that everyone.

[enchant]

I don't know if this is a problem with Bob's or vanilla.

When using the upgrade planner, I can't select a normal pumpjack as the to-be-replaced item. It only lists pumpjack 2-5. So I'm unable to upgrade existing vanilla pumpjacks with the upgrade planner.

Is this because in vanilla, there would be nothing you could replace a pumpjack with?

[RocketManChronicles]

The Electrolyzers do not follow the 'new' color schemes from your recent overhauls. Right now, their color order is yellow, purple, red, green. Should these be similar to the Chemical Plants: Red, Blue, Purple, Green?

[bobingabout]

I don't know if this is a problem with Bob's or vanilla.

When using the upgrade planner, I can't select a normal pumpjack as the to-be-replaced item. It only lists pumpjack 2-5. So I'm unable to upgrade existing vanilla pumpjacks with the upgrade planner.

Is this because in vanilla, there would be nothing you could replace a pumpjack with?

It's probably in a different fast replace group, or maybe doesn't even have any, I'll look into it.

The Electrolyzers do not follow the 'new' color schemes from your recent overhauls. Right now, their color order is yellow, purple, red, green. Should these be similar to the Chemical Plants: Red, Blue, Purple, Green?

The colours are burned in to the different versions, and there's actually 2 different styles for the low tier and higher tier.
In theory, the "quick" way would be either to use the recolours someone else did, or swap them around so they're in the correct colour order, even if they start at yellow and have blue missing.

To do it properly, I'd have to edit the graphics, at the very least to make a mask before I can change their colours, I just haven't done it yet.

[RocketManChronicles]

The Electrolyzers do not follow the 'new' color schemes from your recent overhauls. Right now, their color order is yellow, purple, red, green. Should these be similar to the Chemical Plants: Red, Blue, Purple, Green?

The colours are burned in to the different versions, and there's actually 2 different styles for the low tier and higher tier.
In theory, the "quick" way would be either to use the recolours someone else did, or swap them around so they're in the correct colour order, even if they start at yellow and have blue missing.

To do it properly, I'd have to edit the graphics, at the very least to make a mask before I can change their colours, I just haven't done it yet.

It really doesn't bother me too much, just more or less something I wanted to point out in case it was overlooked.

[Rustmine22]

Hello, Bobingabout
I can no longer use Bobs's logistics due to setting the mod settings, the underground transport being set to 1000 will crash the game and when I restart this happens. >

Logistics error.PNG (15.57 KiB) Viewed 5896 times

If you have a way for me to set it to a low number/ put a number cap on it that would be great.

Sincerely Rustmine22

[bobingabout]

Hello, Bobingabout
I can no longer use Bobs's logistics due to setting the mod settings, the underground transport being set to 1000 will crash the game and when I restart this happens. > Logistics error.PNG
If you have a way for me to set it to a low number/ put a number cap on it that would be great.

Sincerely Rustmine22

I thought there already was a cap on it. what version are you using?

you'll need to delete mod-settings.dat inside the mods folder to make the game work again. settings are remembered now, so you can't just disable the mod, then re-enable it.

EDIT: Yes, they do have limits

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  {
    type = "int-setting",
    name = "bobmods-logistics-beltstarting",
    setting_type = "startup",
    default_value = 3,
    minimum_value = 1,
    maximum_value = 101,
  },
  {
    type = "int-setting",
    name = "bobmods-logistics-beltperlevel",
    setting_type = "startup",
    default_value = 4,
    minimum_value = 0,
    maximum_value = 30,
  },
  {
    type = "int-setting",
    name = "bobmods-logistics-pipestarting",
    setting_type = "startup",
    default_value = 11,
    minimum_value = 1,
    maximum_value = 101,
  },
  {
    type = "int-setting",
    name = "bobmods-logistics-pipeperlevel",
    setting_type = "startup",
    default_value = 4,
    minimum_value = 0,
    maximum_value = 30,
  },

[bobingabout]

I don't know if this is a problem with Bob's or vanilla.

When using the upgrade planner, I can't select a normal pumpjack as the to-be-replaced item. It only lists pumpjack 2-5. So I'm unable to upgrade existing vanilla pumpjacks with the upgrade planner.

Is this because in vanilla, there would be nothing you could replace a pumpjack with?

It's probably in a different fast replace group, or maybe doesn't even have any, I'll look into it.

Okay, I looked into it. Even in base, the normal pumpjack has a fast replace group of "pumpjack", and my modded pumpjacks use the same one. therefore, there's no reason why it shouldn't work.

Are you possibly using any other mods that might change the base game pumpjacks fast replace group?

[enchant]

Okay, I looked into it. Even in base, the normal pumpjack has a fast replace group of "pumpjack", and my modded pumpjacks use the same one. therefore, there's no reason why it shouldn't work.

Are you possibly using any other mods that might change the base game pumpjacks fast replace group?

Not as far as I know. I'm using several of yours, Angels warehouses, squeek thru, picker extended, auto deconstruct, long reach, and nanobots.

[bobingabout]

Okay, I looked into it. Even in base, the normal pumpjack has a fast replace group of "pumpjack", and my modded pumpjacks use the same one. therefore, there's no reason why it shouldn't work.

Are you possibly using any other mods that might change the base game pumpjacks fast replace group?

Not as far as I know. I'm using several of yours, Angels warehouses, squeek thru, picker extended, auto deconstruct, long reach, and nanobots.

I looked again. They collission box size is different. They made a change a few versions ago that forced same size collission boxes.

[jacew]

I'm seeing an issue with Assemblers and their crafting speed. Currently using level 4 assemblers which should have a crafting speed of 2, but when crafting Chemical Science packs as a test (craft time of 14 seconds), it's taking 14 seconds. With the 2x crafting speed this should be 7 seconds. Swapping to the level 5 assemblers the crafting time drops, but only down to 12 seconds, not the ~5 it should be. Am I missing something here?

[bobingabout]

I'm seeing an issue with Assemblers and their crafting speed. Currently using level 4 assemblers which should have a crafting speed of 2, but when crafting Chemical Science packs as a test (craft time of 14 seconds), it's taking 14 seconds. With the 2x crafting speed this should be 7 seconds. Swapping to the level 5 assemblers the crafting time drops, but only down to 12 seconds, not the ~5 it should be. Am I missing something here?

are you sure there's nothing else affecting their crafting speed, such as having low power?

[jacew]

I'm seeing an issue with Assemblers and their crafting speed. Currently using level 4 assemblers which should have a crafting speed of 2, but when crafting Chemical Science packs as a test (craft time of 14 seconds), it's taking 14 seconds. With the 2x crafting speed this should be 7 seconds. Swapping to the level 5 assemblers the crafting time drops, but only down to 12 seconds, not the ~5 it should be. Am I missing something here?

are you sure there's nothing else affecting their crafting speed, such as having low power?

Power is ok no issue there. I'll try and get a recording of it later. Are there any other modifiers that would affect the speed negatively? We're running all your mods and Angels and a few other quality of life mods, nothing that should affect the speed of the assemblers. The electronics assemblers seems to be working as intended.

[jodokus31]

What does the tooltip say under "Crafting Speed"?
EDIT: I mean the placed assembler with the selected recipe. Some things like prod mod or anything other could change the crafting speed. Just to be sure.
Also, UPS drop could change real time speed..

[Biblicalflood]

Version 0.17.67 breaks bobsassembly.

factorio bobs bug2.png (18.51 KiB) Viewed 5674 times

Game folder no longer has that file.

[XELANAMYT]

I just updated the game and due to the above issue (and others related to Angel's mods) I reverted to 0.17.66.

However when I loaded up my game after I reverted the version 3 recipes were removed for some reason (a popup informed me). They were all the recipes from Bob's pumps (water, purified water and lithia water I think). This kinda breaks my game as I utilize those pumps in quite a few places where generating purified water is just awkward.

My character inventory has been chopped in half too for some reason, but I don't know what the reason for that it.

The main issue I have is that if I reverted to a previous version and then loaded a saved game from yesterday, why would those recipes get removed? It doesn't make sense as everything should be the same as it was yesterday!

p.s. I haven't updated any mods either so that wouldn't be the issue.