Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Playing 0.17.45 and the **only** mod is Bottleneck.

- Inserters are holding items (copper plates) above empty splitters/belts with the text "waiting for space in destination".

- Deconstructing and replacing the inserter "fixes" the problem (they start outputting items again).

[Waiting for space?](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2BBD2C407/)

[Working normally after replacing](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ ... CDD962BE7/) (You can see the bottom left corner inserter is also stopped for the same behaviour)

Save file is attached - you'll start beside a small copper train unloading station, where there are 3 inserters "stuck" holding items over empty belts.

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Re: Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Post the a link to the save please.

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Re: Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Sorry, I thought it attached with the forum post!

EDIT: uploaded file
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Re: Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Meant to add - copy/pasting the settings (even though there are none) using shift+right and shift+left click also "reactivates" them.

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Re: Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

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Thats a terrible file uploader, I'll find another

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I uploaded the file to your post and deleted the link

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I'm afraid without a way to reproduce the issue it's not possible to find out how the inserters got into that state.

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Post by posila »

Can't it be inserter incorrectly picking dropoff target due to change in 0.17.44 and being stuck in that state even after the fix?

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As far as I analyzed, it should not be a problem, but there's a small chance that's what happened.

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Re: Inexplicably idle inserters ("waiting for

Post by Grubsnik »

I'm seeing the same issue in a seablock game. Random inserters will get stuck. First 3 times it was a filter inserter, and added a irrelevant item to the filter would clear the block but it would happen again later, likewise changing the drop offset (using bobs adjustable inserters) will cause it to resume operations. sometime for a while, other times permanently.

People on the seablock discord seem to have noticed it happening when a belt backs up for a while before resuming operations

In the attached save the error is presently happening at an inserter shown in the screenshot, but it also happens in the filter inserter pulling iron ore from the nearby warehouse and putting it on a belt leading to ferric chloride solution, even though it is not presenting at this time.

All of these inserters were built last night on 0.17.79, so should not be a conversion bug from 0.17.44 (factory as a whole savegame is less than 2 weeks old)

Full mod folder link, since it's too big for upload to the forum
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bh0x7sbr0iwdggj/mods.zip?dl=0
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