Allow inserters to put out repair packs from roboport please.

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Allow inserters to put out repair packs from roboport please.

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current game mechanics (0.16.51) :
1. logistic requests can put repair packs out from roboports
2. logistic requests can NOT put robots out from roboports
3. inserters can NOT put repair packs out from roboports
4. inserters can put robots out from roboports

I feel mechanics #2 above is reasonable.
but, i can't understand why #3 is prevented.

I was trying to build delayed repair system for flame thrower turret defense.
This system can be achieved by higher priority of construction robots trying to go for repairing than requester chests requesting repair packs.
It removes repair packs in roboport at most of moments, preventing construction robots to go for repair while in battle.
Reading negative difference of oil amount signal from oil tank initialize cool timer for battle end.
Once cool timer ends, only 1 tick occurs to allow inserters to put repair packs to roboport again.
Due to priority of construction robots going for repair is higher than logistic robots putting repair packs back to requester chests, finally, delayed repair is achieved.

But it is impossible to build such system with logistics network embargo.
There is no automatic way to put repair packs out from roboport without requester/buffer chests.

I think inserters also have to become able to put repair packs out from roboports.
Priority of construction robots going for repairing must be higher than inserter to make delayed repair.
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Re: Allow inserters to put out repair packs from roboport please.

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Main design is that you do not put repair packs into roboport in any way. You just need to have them available in logistics network. You can use buffer chests to distribute them better near the front lines.
Slots in roboports are there only for returning bots to leave them there instead of trying to find storage chest and go to it first.

I think that this mechanics needs to be changed.... somehow. To many posts like this one around.
Maybe actually prevent direct insertion or repair packs into roboports?
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The player repairs entities with repair pack, but robots have own manipulators and can repair entities just with electric energy and time.
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darkfrei wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:17 am The player repairs entities with repair pack, but robots have own manipulators and can repair entities just with electric energy and time.
Construction robots actually use repair packs too, or is this a suggestion?
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It seems you need option to prevent Bot Repairs. Then suggest such option for Roboports to stop Repairing in it's area.
Also I do not see reason to disable Repair Pack unloading. It is simple and can be allowed.
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Re: Allow inserters to put out repair packs from roboport please.

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bobingabout wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:12 pm
darkfrei wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:17 am The player repairs entities with repair pack, but robots have own manipulators and can repair entities just with electric energy and time.
Construction robots actually use repair packs too, or is this a suggestion?
Yes, just suggestion.
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