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mk-fg wrote:
LazyLoneLion wrote: There is a simple small mistake:
Output of an assembler was always limited by a stack.
Input was limited by twofold of necessary items for one output.
Ah, sorry, guess I didn't phrase it correctly. ---
EDIT: nevermind, you're completely right, and I'm apparently just misremembering things and bad at testing. Thanks!
Actually, it has always been the inserter, not the assembler, that does the limiting. The assembler will keep going as long as it has the inputs and there is room in the output, but the inserters will stop putting inputs in when there is too much on the output.
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thereaverofdarkness wrote: Actually, it has always been the inserter, not the assembler, that does the limiting. The assembler will keep going as long as it has the inputs and there is room in the output, but the inserters will stop putting inputs in when there is too much on the output.
Yeah, guess that'd be correct way of thinking about it, in terms of inserter logic and not assembler.
My "bad testing" earlier was ignoring that fact and putting stacks of input items manually, then wondering why assembler doesn't stop, which indeed it doesn't have any logic for.
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Yep, I've done that enough times.

I didn't get an answer to my previous question:
What's the range of the tank's cannon? It says 25 on the tank and 30 on the ammo.
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When an inserter inserts ammo into artillery turret, what is the limit at when it wont put in any more?

Edit: Found out that it is 5 after 30 seconds of testing... :D
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The Eriksonn wrote:When an inserter inserts ammo into artillery turret, what is the limit at when it wont put in any more?
Edit: Found out that it is 5 after 30 seconds of testing... :D
Yeah, it's 10.
Turret prototypes have "automated_ammo_count = 10", so it's a preset number there, independent of ammo stacks and such.
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If I play Factorio on two different computers, what is the best way to keep my blueprints synced between the two computers? Is this possible? I take the right side of the blueprint window where it says My Blueprints only shows what is saved local, right? I am not sure how to use the left side, or Shared Blueprints side. Can someone help me understand this better?
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Derpstone wrote:If I play Factorio on two different computers, what is the best way to keep my blueprints synced between the two computers? Is this possible? I take the right side of the blueprint window where it says My Blueprints only shows what is saved local, right? I am not sure how to use the left side, or Shared Blueprints side. Can someone help me understand this better?
The left pane Shared Blueprints is for multiplayer games; you have a book of blueprints, you drag it to Shared, and another player joining your game can grab a copy of your blueprints (or drop in a copy of their blueprints for you to use).

The right pane My Blueprints is for you to share between your games. In game one, you make a book and drag it to My Blueprints. It is now linked to your account and available for any of your other games. In game two, you open the blueprint library and grab a copy to use for that game.

There is no automatic update of a shared blueprint in either form. If you update a blueprint, or add a new blueprint to a book that has been shared: first delete the existing book from the library (right click to open the book and select the garbage can); then you re-copy the updated book to share it again; finally you grab a copy of the updated book in the game sharing that book. If you don't copy it to the library, the changes will not be there to use in other games. If you don't grab a copy of the updated book, you won't have the changes.

I hope this helps - I am working on a page for the wiki, holding off publishing it until the GUI changes are finalized. Let me know if you have more questions so the wiki page is as complete and helpful as possible when it is published. Thanks!
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Derpstone wrote:If I play Factorio on two different computers, what is the best way to keep my blueprints synced between the two computers? Is this possible? I take the right side of the blueprint window where it says My Blueprints only shows what is saved local, right? I am not sure how to use the left side, or Shared Blueprints side. Can someone help me understand this better?
You should probably share (I mean sync) your save folder through some cloud-sync, like Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive.
Steam does this automatically.
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LazyLoneLion wrote:
Derpstone wrote:If I play Factorio on two different computers, what is the best way to keep my blueprints synced between the two computers? Is this possible? I take the right side of the blueprint window where it says My Blueprints only shows what is saved local, right? I am not sure how to use the left side, or Shared Blueprints side. Can someone help me understand this better?
You should probably share your save folder through some cloud-sync, like Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive.
Steam does this automatically.
Ahhh! I am playing the game through Steam, but I think in my head I had the purposes of the My Blueprints and Shared Blueprints mixed up, and I made a royal mess of everything. You'd think the word "Shared" would have clued me in. Another moment of Derp in a long list of Derps.
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Is it possible to remove ore patches in the game? (Single player)
And is it possible to remove just one ore patch?
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The most obvious way is probably to stick miners on top of the ore until the ore is gone. But Picker Extended has an ore-removal tool. After installing the mod. Type B, click on the yellow ore eraser, and drag over the area you want to delete. It'll tell you how much ore is there. Shift-drag if you really want to delete.
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Should I signal the uppermost track in this stacker? Beyond adding a couple to make sure trains dont bump. Any other issue with this layout?
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Ghoulish wrote:Should I signal the uppermost track in this stacker? Beyond adding a couple to make sure trains dont bump. Any other issue with this layout?
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Yes - also, everything above the bottom row of signals should probably be chain signals.
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How do i stop this from happening
PS its on the photo
Whatever
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00Trollface wrote:How do i stop this from happening
PS its on the photo
No idea what you are talking about.
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Are you looking to have the same items on both belt lanes?
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00Trollface wrote:How do i stop this from happening
PS its on the photo
Whatever
Please don't take a photo of your screen. Take a screenshot.

If you want help you should tell us more details of what you think the problem is.
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He probably wants to split *lanes* by splitter and wonders why that doesn't work as he intended.

Splitter splits both lanes on the input belt[s] to both output belts.
If you want to split coal to one belt and ore to another you should configure that splitter with priority and filter, like "put all coal to the right".
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Do trains repath if their target station is disabled mid-route?

It seems like this is the case but I have also seen some trains seem to stop dead and get a No Path error if it's destination was disabled. I can't recall if they resolved themselves or how long it took. This can slow down traffic on a main line. How long does it take a train to repath to a new valid destination?
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Repathing is essentially instantaneous. (I'd expect it to cost 1 tick, but I don't know that for sure.)

But:
  • If all the stops a train wants to visit are disabled (entire schedule appears in red): The train will stop in its tracks until at least one is enabled again.
  • If the train is going to station "Foobar", there are three stops named "Foobar", and only one is enabled: The train will stop in its tracks if it can't find a path from wherever it is to the enabled stop. The train will start moving once an accessible stop enables itself, or it will advance to the next station on the list (but possibly still be stuck) if all three simultaneously disable themselves.
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