From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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YuokiTani wrote:I will watch your videos to see which edges needs to be smooth ;)
If you have some specific topics you would like to get input on or have tested, then please let me know. I find that I enjoy this mod more than Angel + Bob. Where Angel and Bob add complexity, then I feel that your mod adds genuinely new ideas such as trading, Unicomp and signs.

The next campaign I will be trying a challenge of only mining my starting area and then see if I can spin a profit from Agronomie and PFW to keep the bases running and scaling.
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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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This little beauty is my new best friend: Money for nothing :D
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Dirt -> Stone + Data Fragments + Contaminated Water
Stone -> Unicomp
Data Fragments -> Unicomp
Contamindated Water -> Wet Contaminated Mud + Toxic Dust
Wet Contaminated Mud -> Crushed N4 + Crushed F7
Data Fragments and Toxic Dust are converted to unicomp centrally

Since the bottleneck is the Washers they dictate the throughput
Stone: 2/s
Data Fragments: 0.67/s
Contaminated Water: 40/s
Wet Contaminated Mud (from Contaminated Water): 3.33/s
Toxic Dust (from Contaminated Water): 0.83/s
Unicomp (from Stone): 6/m
Unicomp (from Data Fragment): 0.4/m
Unicomp (from Toxic Dust): 0.7/m
Crushed N4 (from Wet Comtaminated Mud): 5/m
Crushed N4 (from Wet Comtaminated Mud): 6/m
Unicomp (total): 7.1/m
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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

Post by SKleen75 »

Here a little sumthing i build to make endless UC.

It´s a bit lategame, because of the modules in the oil refinery, but it gives a nice amount of UC and it doesn´t take much space.

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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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Blueprint for my UC production.

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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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The UC is then used in this:

Here i have a trainstation for unloading UC. Then everything that ist needed to start a rocket will be produced there.

Rocket autostart is recommendet.

Sadly the electric motor and the MF waterpump are broken in my game so i had to use the waterwell mod to get it to work.
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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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This is how i power this:
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I like it that it is taking not much space.

Blueprint for energyproduction:

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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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Sehr beeindruckend, vor allem auch die Energieerzeugung und Verbrauch. Ich bin dabei dort etwas an der Balance zu tun und die aktuellen Fehler zu korrigieren.

very impressive build and power-generation. i plan to update the YI-Engines Addon to improve the balance.
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Re: From Player To Player (Theocrafting, Builds, Blueprints, Tips, Workarounds)

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Small UC Geberator , ehich use new coal cracing mechanics (coal+heavy oil = other oils)
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yeah, new recipes are too OP against the old-balance and makes coal-frumital-hydrogen obsolete.

do you have measured (production and consumption) your setup in uc/min
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YuokiTani wrote:yeah, new recipes are too OP against the old-balance and makes coal-frumital-hydrogen obsolete.

do you have measured (production and consumption) your setup in uc/min
it is will not be actual, becouse i am using also bob's mod (and Angel's aswell).
But let's calculate: 20 coal = 1 UC , out of 10 coal we make 45 extra oil products for 5 sec. Operation cost:0.5UC (10 coal) Operation profit: 4.5 UC / 5 sec. For 1 Oil Refinery.

I'm also have lubricant UC generator (using Angel's production chain) but it loocs too ugly.
A lot of Cimota restructor recepies needs balance (you know x10 liquids vanilla change at 0.15 update)
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Last week since things have settled after the 0.15 release I came back to my Youki save and migrated from 0.14. Ho boy, what a shambles (I'm sure you all found the same for your saves), you kind of think "where on earth to start"? I got power working again via the OP MF stuff as a stop gap then set up a 4 reactor nuclear using the beautiful set of blueprints from this guy. Why recreate the wheel?

The science changes made most of my base obsolete and the new stuff wouldn't fit anyway. So I picked a spot with access to all resources and removed science from the main base entirely. This gives me all the space back, I need less resources to just produce things I use and if science changes again it only impacts the dedicated site. It's also easier to expand a dedicated site to increase throughput.

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Now while that gets the science done I can get on with making sense of the main base. I took blueprints inside the old factorissimo buildings before migration but the new ones are larger. So I have full warehouses to shuffle about to fit the bigger factories in. On the bright side though, without the science monster eating everything, 1 furnace line of each resource will be plenty and the bus can be smaller.
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ok.. i think i do something horrible wrong.

Build finaly my first steam turbine and first TMFW-Gen , same setup as on the picture from Skleen75.

The generator produces no energy as the turbine is way to slow with producing MF. The turbine produces 24 MF every second or so, the Gen needs 500 per second^^
So how does it work?

And where to with all the condensate? -.-
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I'am not sure if mechanics changed in past versions again. I will try to fix all for next version.
you can use the condensate in a boiler to produce steam for a additional steam-engine or 2. otherwise all water-consumption helps you.
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just noticed.... the TMFW-Gen should give now 1.5 GW instead of 50 MW . Would be nice, but 524 MF is a bit alot :D

I tried to use the water in a boiler or in the production line for the fuel. But each turbine generats at the moment 600 water per second. Quit alot^^
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I made something. And i think it´s beautiful. XD

I call it the "400+". It uses 8 TMFW. All exess fluid will be collected and then used by the 14.7 Generator-S. So no waste anymore. :)

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So you all just see it makes perfectly sense to use Yuoki´s energy stuff! :D

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Nice, thank you for your post. I will use the blueprint and try this in my gameplay.
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What is the usual source for Technic signs? I've converted a vast amount of coal into enriched things but I need more modules which eat the signs up. Is there something else I can make that won't just pile up? There's only so much coal I need to burn ;)
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Repairing broken Toolheads and Drillheads gives many techanic signs.
Also instead of coal you can turn your overflow wood into briquettes and packets.
Transmutation of Mud and UC gives some if you want more fuel.
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YuokiTani wrote:Repairing broken Toolheads and Drillheads gives many techanic signs.
Also instead of coal you can turn your overflow wood into briquettes and packets.
Transmutation of Mud and UC gives some if you want more fuel.
Fuel is the last thing I need though. I've turned my nuclear plant off because I'm swimming in enriched fuel bricks, coal stacks and wood blocks :)

Next on my list was converting all the drilling/washing to use the heads so that might help.

A process to convert some of these fuels to rocket fuel would be nice. That way we could get rid of the fuel mountains and not have to make solid blocks for rockets. Perhaps something using the agronomie side of things to get people using that more?
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has anyone a nice, UPS friendly energy setup? 10GW+ ? xD And a way to feed it, without using up all the 10GW again? Alone the transmutation with beacon uses atm 6GW for me. So at the moment no beacons.

current energy consumption: 10.6GW
2,4k steam turbine (classic) in 2x 5.5 GW UPS friendly Nuclear.
220 small Sol-Ray-Stream Collector (ups friendly but don't like solar)
582 Steam engine (classic) , still left over
8 TMFW-Gen setup from Skleen75 as test


would also wish some stuff had nice description before you build it, so you know what they are used for. Rheinsberg, overheater f.e.
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