Quick replace belts to splitter / underground - one-way

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Quick replace belts to splitter / underground - one-way

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In the video 0.16 Factorio Explorers! Ep 12: 1 BELT OF COPPER - Coop with Xterminator, MP Gameplay (03:05) KatherineOfSky mentions a great idea for improved QoL making the replace function a one-way deal.

Belts can be replaced by underground or splitters, but not the other way around

So: Splitters and Underground can only be replaced by Splitters and Underground.
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See my comment viewtopic.php?f=23&t=54987#p323863 . Basically remove the ability to fast replace splitter and undergrounds with belts whilst moving/dragging. Rseding agrees, but apparently Kovarex doesn't.

Another related discussion viewtopic.php?f=6&t=54676 .

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My suggestion is:
Leave the overbuilding system as it is, but give us a modifier key that prevents overbuilding temporarily all together. That way we can have all the benefits with no disadvantages. This would also help with inserter placement. You could build inserters while moving, without overbulding existing ones of different color oder orientation. In Example in a row of furnaces or machines with alternating blue an yellow, or inputting and outputting inserters.

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We have been told that if we want to get things changed in Factorio, we should be downloading mods. So everyone that feels, like me, that the fast replace rules in 0.16 have gone a bit over, and splitters or undergrounds should NOT be replaced when dragging, go and download the mod from the original "bug" report: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=54987#p323863

I do not know why it was thought of like this, especially when everything else in the game is "smart" replace! When we press the mouse down and move, we expect ONE thing to happen. Whether that is mine (mine for wood, and you only mine wood, not the coal underneath) or anything, we expect one thing to change when we drag, what we started changing the first time we pressed the button and held it there.

So go download the mod en masse and hope that the devs take notice.

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Don't you mean "unhott made a brilliant comment on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drXOAyP ... pa14AaABAg
about a week ago " ?

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I would additionally recommend that this become a UI setting, so that people can play as they prefer.

Checkboxes:
Allow Splitters and undergrounds to overwrite belts (Default, yes)
Allow belts to overwrite splitters and undergrounds (Default, no)

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unhott wrote:Don't you mean "unhott made a brilliant comment on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drXOAyP ... pa14AaABAg
about a week ago " ?
Right :P

It is actually the run-and-drag quick-replacement that causes the most annoyance.
A GUI configuration checkbox or two could indeed be a solution if no consensus can be attained.
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