[0.16.x] Bob's Mods: General Discussion

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:32 am

Thank you for the new bots

I noticed something else, the green and purple underground belts should be in "transport-belt" fast-replaceable-group.

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:59 am

fishycat wrote:Thank you for the new bots

I noticed something else, the green and purple underground belts should be in "transport-belt" fast-replaceable-group.

*head desk* yeeeaaah... Another base game change I forgot to update for.

I'll add it on the list for later.

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:55 pm

Would you consider tweaking the loots for spawners and worms a little?
I edited the values for my personal game a little, to balance it out more.

I post the changes here in spoiler, if not ok, just say and I delete it.

data-updates.lua - starting at line 400 to end

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if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"] then
  if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 10,  probability = 0.7 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-blue"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-blue",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-purple"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-purple",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-blue"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-biter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-green",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
end

if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"] then
  if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 10,  probability = 0.7 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-orange"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-orange",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-red"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-red",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-yellow"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["bob-spitter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact-yellow",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.9 } )
  end
end


if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["biter-spawner"] then
  if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["biter-spawner"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw["unit-spawner"]["biter-spawner"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["biter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 10,  probability = 0.7 } )
  end
end

if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["spitter-spawner"] then
  if data.raw["unit-spawner"]["spitter-spawner"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw["unit-spawner"]["spitter-spawner"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw["unit-spawner"]["spitter-spawner"].loot, {  item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 10,  probability = 0.7 } )
  end
end


if data.raw.turret["small-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["small-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["small-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["small-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.6 } )
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["medium-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["medium-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["medium-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["medium-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.7 } )
  end
end


if data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-purple"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-purple",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-purple"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["big-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-yellow"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-yellow",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-yellow"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-explosive-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-green"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-green",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-green"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-poison-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-red"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-red",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-red"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-fire-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-blue"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-blue",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-blue"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-piercing-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end

if data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-orange"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact-orange",  count_min = 1,  count_max = 3,  probability = 0.8 } )
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    if data.raw.item["alien-artifact-orange"] then
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.8 } )
    else
      table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-big-electric-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.8 } )
    end
  end
end



if data.raw.turret["bob-giant-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-giant-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-giant-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-giant-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 2,  count_max = 4,  probability = 0.85 } )
  end
end


if data.raw.turret["bob-behemoth-worm-turret"] then
  if data.raw.turret["bob-behemoth-worm-turret"].loot == nil then 
    data.raw.turret["bob-behemoth-worm-turret"].loot = {}
  end
  if data.raw.item["alien-artifact"] then
    table.insert(data.raw.turret["bob-behemoth-worm-turret"].loot, { item = "alien-artifact",  count_min = 3,  count_max = 6,  probability = 0.85 } )
  end
end

_npo6ka_ · Post by **_npo6ka_** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:01 pm

Thank you for your fashion. I have suggestions for the mod's Bob's Adjustable Inserters. Make it possible to close the interface of this mod by pressing the ESC key, since recently it can be done.

A small example:

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function open_gui()
  --create gui
  game.players[event.player_index].opened = gui
end

script.on_event(defines.events.on_gui_closed, function(event)
  if is_my_mod(event) then 
      gui.close() 
  end
end)

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:36 pm

_npo6ka_ wrote:Thank you for your fashion. I have suggestions for the mod's Bob's Adjustable Inserters. Make it possible to close the interface of this mod by pressing the ESC key, since recently it can be done.

A small example:
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function open_gui()
  --create gui
  game.players[event.player_index].opened = gui
end

script.on_event(defines.events.on_gui_closed, function(event)
  if is_my_mod(event) then 
      gui.close() 
  end
end)

that is a change I can make

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:26 pm

Okay, I did some updates

Logistics 0.16.3:
removed GUI locale entries
Changed fast replace group of green and purple underground belts and splitters to "transport-belt" to match new base game.

Inserters 0.16.2:
Added GUI locale entries from Logistics mod.
Added support for close button to close the GUI

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:15 pm

Though I like most of the base game changes, I really don't get the one with the splitters in transport-belt fast replaceable group. It is really annoying when you upgrade your mainbus and accidentally all the splitters...

Fair enough, I can change it for my game, no problem. I like your addition to the inserters, nice one.

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:53 am

fishycat wrote:Though I like most of the base game changes, I really don't get the one with the splitters in transport-belt fast replaceable group. It is really annoying when you upgrade your mainbus and accidentally all the splitters...

Fair enough, I can change it for my game, no problem. I like your addition to the inserters, nice one.

personally, I agree, the a splitter is a splitter, a belt is a belt, and an UG belt is an UG belt. I changed it to conform to the new base game, as it was brought to my attention and the change requested.

The alternate solution would be to go and change all the base game splitters back to a splitters group, and UG belts to an UG belts group. Perhaps one day I could add a setting to change the fast replace group of splitters and UG belts to their own group?

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:52 am

bobingabout wrote:Perhaps one day I could add a setting to change the fast replace group of splitters and UG belts to their own group?

That actually would be perfect solution.

orzelek · Post by **orzelek** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:51 am

fishycat wrote:
bobingabout wrote:Perhaps one day I could add a setting to change the fast replace group of splitters and UG belts to their own group?
That actually would be perfect solution.

This mod might do this albeit partially:
https://mods.factorio.com/mods/wormmus/ ... lt-changes

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:42 pm

Yes, saw this mod, too. Now it changes only the vanilla stuff. But to have the option integrated in bob's would be better and then also his stuff is included.

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:33 am

fishycat wrote:Yes, saw this mod, too. Now it changes only the vanilla stuff. But to have the option integrated in bob's would be better and then also his stuff is included.

if it does base game and nobody elses, they didn't do it right.

instead of hard over-writing the spliters by name, you instead iterate through all splitters with a for loop, and replace the group on all of them in a simple function. then do the same with UG belts.

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:43 pm

FactorioBot wrote: Balancing

Changed fluid wagon capacity from 75k to 25k (Same as storage tank).

Lowered fluid wagon weight from 3000 to 1000 (same as cargo wagon).

Changed fluid wagon recipe so it requires just 1 storage tank instead of 3.

Lowered barrel fluid capacity from 250 to 50. (So cargo wagon with barrels holds 20k and logistic robots are not too strong alternative to carrying fluids.)

Lowered barelling speed from 1 to 0.2.

What do you guys think I should do?
Barrelling should automatically change my barrels too, but my gas cylenders will have 5x the stack size as barrels, even though they hold the same amount of "Fluid".
Should I change all barrel stacks to 5x, or reduce my gas cylender stack size to match?

And, my fluid wagons are going to be messed up as a result of these changes.
Do you think I should revert the fluid wagon stats back to pre 0.16.8 standard, or change my own fluid wagons down to be on par with the new standard?

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:05 pm

i would be for, set barrel stacks to 5 and maybe do a MK2 (50k) and MK3 (75k) version for the fluid wagon, along with higher tier tech prerequisites.

HOSH · Post by **HOSH** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:16 am

fishycat wrote:i would be for, set barrel stacks to 5 and maybe do a MK2 (50k) and MK3 (75k) version for the fluid wagon, along with higher tier tech prerequisites.

Lol, When reading the FFF thought about the Mk2 (@50k) and Mk3 (@75k) with similar thoughts to bring Bobs in-line with Vanilla some... Of course add in additional resources required per level like normal.

Currently vanilla barrels stack at 10. The gas bottles, if I remember correctly only held small portion of what barrels did in 0.14, so the stack of them would be more for a similar size ratio. So if they hold the same amount of "Fluid" I feel it would be best to cut down the stack size similarly.

T2k3 · Post by **T2k3** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:28 pm

I would adjust the bobs-fluid-wagons to vanilla and i can imagine to to settle on a size of 5x of the barrels. Meaning something of this:
[Stacksize] [fluid_per_bottle]
10 250
25 100 <- my preference
50 50

10x would look like:
10 500
25 200
50 100

In my opinion 10x would be overkill. Or maybe you could go all the way and parameter everything. (gas_fluid_per_bottle, gas_fluid_bottle_stacksize)

btw.: I would actually adjust the fluid_per_barrel parameter from 50 to 100 (would mean the 10x table for the gas bottles)

Here is a little proposal for the bobs function library mod (auto-bottle.lua):

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bobmods.lib.adjust_fluid_per_barrel(fluid_per_barrel)
  local empty_barrel_name = "empty-barrel"
  for name,fluid in pairs(data.raw["fluid"]) do
    if (fluid.auto_barrel == nil or fluid.auto_barrel) and fluid.icon then
      local barrel_fill_recipe, barrel_empty_recipe = get_or_create_barrel_recipes(fluid)

      if barrel_fill_recipe then
        barrel_fill_recipe.ingredients =
          {
            {type = "fluid", name = fluid.name, amount = fluid_per_barrel},
            {type = "item", name = empty_barrel_name, amount = 1},
          }
      end

      if barrel_empty_recipe then
        barrel_empty_recipe.results = {
          {type = "fluid", name = fluid.name, amount = fluid_per_barrel},
          {type = "item", name = empty_barrel_name, amount = 1}
        }
      end
    end
  end
end

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:19 pm

fishycat wrote:i would be for, set barrel stacks to 5 and maybe do a MK2 (50k) and MK3 (75k) version for the fluid wagon, along with higher tier tech prerequisites.

I think the current fluid wagon MK2 and MK3 offer X1.5 and X2 of the original (75k) giving 112.5k for MK2 and 150k for MK3. the new base standard would bring it to 37.5k and 50k

fishycat · Post by **fishycat** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:01 pm

yep, is X1.5 and X2 now. Would it be too much with X2 and X3 of the base X 25k?

edit: ah, yes, happy new gear to all

aklesey1 · Post by **aklesey1** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:29 pm

Happy new 2018 Year to all people! I wish you happiness!

porcupine · Post by **porcupine** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:06 pm

fishycat wrote:yep, is X1.5 and X2 now. Would it be too much with X2 and X3 of the base X 25k?

edit: ah, yes, happy new gear to all

I think that'd be overkill.

The whole point of the tuning changes was because the fluid wagons were OP, or rather just too damn big. It's still quite large after all.

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