Bugs & FAQ

[torne]

The recipe needing more than one ore is what broke it. You can also reproduce the breakage in vanilla with the steel recipe, because it also requires more than one ore input: put down a furnace with an inserter feeding it from a belt, then drop one iron plate into the box. The inserter will put the plate into the furnace to make steel, but the recipe won't trigger yet because steel needs more plates. Now put some iron ore into the box: the inserter will immediately pick up the iron ore and try to insert it into the furnace, rendering itself stuck in the same exact way.

I assume this is a property of automatic recipe buildings: when the building has a particular item in its output slot, it "knows" what it's supposed to be producing and only requests the appropriate inputs from any inserters feeding it. However, as soon as the output slot is empty and the current recipe iteration is finished, it goes back to the state of being willing to start any recipe allowed by that building type, even if an inserter has partially filled the input slot already.

It only worked in your test because you were using iron ore and copper ore, and since those both only need one item in vanilla it can't get stuck in this way: even if the inserter picks up the opposite item type to the previous time, it will always be able to put it into the furnace eventually if there's another inserter emptying the furnace's output out.

[randomone]

I don't know if this is your mod, bob's immediates, or the game itself, but something during recipe loading is going horribly, horribly wrong.
0.7.25 - Not marathon - Default settings everywhere - Untouched mod files

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Accidentally cropped out the top command, which is just the same as the other two with angelsore1-crushed-smelting


Also one of you setting strings are dead, doubt its related though

[jodokus31]

Dont you use the Angels Smelting?
https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Arch666A ... lssmelting

I would recommend install the full angels mod. They are awesome in many ways

[Exasperation]

I think "horribly, horribly wrong" is a bit of an exaggeration, but randomone is correct that there is a bug in Angel's Refining that only triggers when Angel's Smelting is not present.

In the \prototypes\recipes\refining-output.lua subfolder of Angel's Refining, the line

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energy_required = 7,

in each of the angelsore-crushed-smelting recipes needs to be cut from its current position and pasted into the 'normal' and 'expensive' subtables of those recipes.

The reason the bug doesn't show up when Smelting is present (or at all for bobmonium/rubyte smelting) is that there's some recipe adjustment going on later that automatically does input sanitizing, sees that the energy_required is out of place, and moves it to the correct locations. Since that code is only called on recipes to be modified, the saphirite/stiratite smelting just gets left alone when Smelting isn't present and as a result doesn't get fixed as a side effect.

[randomone]

I think "horribly, horribly wrong" is a bit of an exaggeration, but randomone is correct that there is a bug in Angel's Refining that only triggers when Angel's Smelting is not present.

In the \prototypes\recipes\refining-output.lua subfolder of Angel's Refining, the line

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energy_required = 7,

in each of the angelsore-crushed-smelting recipes needs to be cut from its current position and pasted into the 'normal' and 'expensive' subtables of those recipes.

The reason the bug doesn't show up when Smelting is present (or at all for bobmonium/rubyte smelting) is that there's some recipe adjustment going on later that automatically does input sanitizing, sees that the energy_required is out of place, and moves it to the correct locations. Since that code is only called on recipes to be modified, the saphirite/stiratite smelting just gets left alone when Smelting isn't present and as a result doesn't get fixed as a side effect.

Yup, that got it working like its supposed to. Thanks!

[HOSH]

Angel,

Have you thought about updating the no infinite ores trigger to 0.15 so that it forces the removal? And RSO would handle it properly? This way we could put it on the server that way.

Long story short, first game thought I had settings for no infinite ores and had normal infinite ore spawn. Checked RSo settings run the map regen but loose all achievements after adjusting to 0 change of infinite ores 1st game was good, but no achievements, 2nd and 3rd game used the settings I used when regening the map with RSO and 100% infinite ores at Ratio of 0....


Running full bobs mods, Angles ores, smelting, petrochem, RSO and some QOL mods...

Thanks
HOSH

[Arch666Angel]

Angel,

Have you thought about updating the no infinite ores trigger to 0.15 so that it forces the removal? And RSO would handle it properly? This way we could put it on the server that way.

Long story short, first game thought I had settings for no infinite ores and had normal infinite ore spawn. Checked RSo settings run the map regen but loose all achievements after adjusting to 0 change of infinite ores 1st game was good, but no achievements, 2nd and 3rd game used the settings I used when regening the map with RSO and 100% infinite ores at Ratio of 0....


Running full bobs mods, Angles ores, smelting, petrochem, RSO and some QOL mods...

Thanks
HOSH

You can disable infinites by ticking off the checkboxes in the mod options.

[duncans_pumpkin]

Angel I've been playing with expensive recipes enabled and hardcore copper wire recently and I've noticed a few inconsistencies.

By hand:
1 x Iron Gears from 4 Iron Plates (50 x Molten Iron)
Using regular casting:
2 x Iron Gears from 40 x Molten Iron
This is a greater than 100% bonus from casting straight to gears.

Using strand casting:
2 x Iron Sheet Coil from 100 x Molten Iron + Water
Using regular casting:
1 x Iron Sheet Coil from 40 x Molten Iron
20% bonus for not using the strand casting machine.


Copper Sheet Coil has the same issue it can be made for 40 x in the normal casting machine. I've not checked the other gear wheel production but I expect it is similar.
IMHO I think you should have a production bonus for producing sheet coil and an additional bonus for using the strand casting machine but I think the present settings aren't quite right.
I'm not sure if you meant for Iron gears to have a production bonus when using a casting machine but its certainly nice with expensive recipes.

Overall I really enjoy your mods. The extra challenge is great.

[Arch666Angel]

Angel I've been playing with expensive recipes enabled and hardcore copper wire recently and I've noticed a few inconsistencies.

By hand:
1 x Iron Gears from 4 Iron Plates (50 x Molten Iron)
Using regular casting:
2 x Iron Gears from 40 x Molten Iron
This is a greater than 100% bonus from casting straight to gears.

Using strand casting:
2 x Iron Sheet Coil from 100 x Molten Iron + Water
Using regular casting:
1 x Iron Sheet Coil from 40 x Molten Iron
20% bonus for not using the strand casting machine.


Copper Sheet Coil has the same issue it can be made for 40 x in the normal casting machine. I've not checked the other gear wheel production but I expect it is similar.
IMHO I think you should have a production bonus for producing sheet coil and an additional bonus for using the strand casting machine but I think the present settings aren't quite right.
I'm not sure if you meant for Iron gears to have a production bonus when using a casting machine but its certainly nice with expensive recipes.

Overall I really enjoy your mods. The extra challenge is great.

Are you using the smelting extended or something mod? That might cause the issues, since I dont add recipes for casting gears directly.

[duncans_pumpkin]

Doh, yes sorry thats the angelssmeltting extended.

[HOSH]

Angel,

Have you thought about updating the no infinite ores trigger to 0.15 so that it forces the removal? And RSO would handle it properly? This way we could put it on the server that way.

Long story short, first game thought I had settings for no infinite ores and had normal infinite ore spawn. Checked RSo settings run the map regen but loose all achievements after adjusting to 0 change of infinite ores 1st game was good, but no achievements, 2nd and 3rd game used the settings I used when regening the map with RSO and 100% infinite ores at Ratio of 0....


Running full bobs mods, Angles ores, smelting, petrochem, RSO and some QOL mods...

Thanks
HOSH

You can disable infinites by ticking off the checkboxes in the mod options.

Thanks My mistake, thought they had to be enabled, besides the mod installed, for ores to work...

[rkain101]

Is there any way to turn off the auto-barreling option in a running save (with a console command, perhaps), so that I can just use a standard barreling setup with assemblers? From an older post, I saw that the inserter bugs with the barreling pump are not currently fixable, so I'd rather just turn off that option, if I could be told how to do so.

[jodokus31]

Is there any way to turn off the auto-barreling option in a running save (with a console command, perhaps), so that I can just use a standard barreling setup with assemblers? From an older post, I saw that the inserter bugs with the barreling pump are not currently fixable, so I'd rather just turn off that option, if I could be told how to do so.

I think, it can be switched off if you go to the mod options from inside the savegame, although they are called startup options.

[rkain101]

Is there any way to turn off the auto-barreling option in a running save (with a console command, perhaps), so that I can just use a standard barreling setup with assemblers? From an older post, I saw that the inserter bugs with the barreling pump are not currently fixable, so I'd rather just turn off that option, if I could be told how to do so.

I think, it can be switched off if you go to the mod options from inside the savegame, although they are called startup options.

I can't change anything in that startup tab of that menu. I assume they're locked in for running games... I figured a console command would be able to bypass that lock.

[Exasperation]

Try saving, exiting to the main menu, selecting options -> mods, changing it there, then restarting Factorio and loading your save. The reason they're startup options is they modify things that are loaded before you get to the main menu, hence the need to restart Factorio. Even if you could change them while the game was running, it wouldn't do anything until you restarted.

[jodokus31]

Sorry for the wrong assumption, but I knew, that I managed to change the options in the past. Just didnt exactly know how anymore. Thanks for the correction

[rkain101]

Try saving, exiting to the main menu, selecting options -> mods, changing it there, then restarting Factorio and loading your save. The reason they're startup options is they modify things that are loaded before you get to the main menu, hence the need to restart Factorio. Even if you could change them while the game was running, it wouldn't do anything until you restarted.

That makes sense, and it worked! Thanks a ton.

[credomane]

-shifted metal mixing furnace to electronics tech

Thank you so much! Everything was such a pain with the metal mixing furnace being so far out of the way in the research tree. Advancement all but halted for a long long time while unlocking all the research for the metal mixing furnace.

[London_]

The newest ore silo's addon update broke the mod for me. I play on 0.15.33

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[Arch666Angel]

The newest ore silo's addon update broke the mod for me. I play on 0.15.33

silo error.jpg

should be fixed