[MOD 1.1] Natural Evolution - All things Alien!

[sp518]

The TerraformingStation can't be removed normally. It remain a station can't be clicked and cause the game crash a moment later.

Thanks for the report. Please revert to the previous version on the Mod portal. I'll work on a fix.
If you can, could I get a save?

Thanks

Here's the save and mod
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzI1V ... mZCUEo5cjQ

[TheSAguy]

The TerraformingStation can't be removed normally. It remain a station can't be clicked and cause the game crash a moment later.

Thanks for the report. Please revert to the previous version on the Mod portal. I'll work on a fix.
If you can, could I get a save?

Thanks

Here's the save and mod
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzI1V ... mZCUEo5cjQ

I think the problem is with the mod "EndgameCombat_0.0.25"
It seems to make certian items like radars not minable or sometihng. Since the terraforming station uses a 'fake' radar, it's not mined when you remove the 'turrnet' entity part of the terraforming station. The same thing happens with the Bio-cannon. You can't mine it with "EndgameCombat_0.0.25" installed.

I'll shoot the mod author a note and see if he could fix it.
When I remove "EndgameCombat_0.0.25" and load your map string as a new game it works.
I can't test this on your save, because you just mined the station, so the error is already in progress.

[TheSAguy]

V7.2.1 - NE Buildings: Added some support for upgrading from 7.1.5 to 7.2.1.

Please mine and replace all your Terraforming Stations and Artifact Collectors.

This will not fix the current incompatibility with "EndgameCombat_0.0.25"

Thanks,.

[sp518]

The TerraformingStation can't be removed normally. It remain a station can't be clicked and cause the game crash a moment later.

Thanks for the report. Please revert to the previous version on the Mod portal. I'll work on a fix.
If you can, could I get a save?

Thanks

Here's the save and mod
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzI1V ... mZCUEo5cjQ

I think the problem is with the mod "EndgameCombat_0.0.25"
It seems to make certian items like radars not minable or sometihng. Since the terraforming station uses a 'fake' radar, it's not mined when you remove the 'turrnet' entity part of the terraforming station. The same thing happens with the Bio-cannon. You can't mine it with "EndgameCombat_0.0.25" installed.

I'll shoot the mod author a note and see if he could fix it.
When I remove "EndgameCombat_0.0.25" and load your map string as a new game it works.
I can't test this on your save, because you just mined the station, so the error is already in progress.

Here's the save2.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzI1V ... mhXemJmTW8

[stoa]

I need halp

Had your mod running for quite a while in 0.14, so i threw it back in for 0.15

Everything was going well for ages, until u decided to use artifact collectors.
I mean, they worked and everything, however on reloading the game i just get greeted by this nice message
http://prntscr.com/g4d9nz

Any possible solution?

[orzelek]

I need halp

Had your mod running for quite a while in 0.14, so i threw it back in for 0.15

Everything was going well for ages, until u decided to use artifact collectors.
I mean, they worked and everything, however on reloading the game i just get greeted by this nice message
http://prntscr.com/g4d9nz

Any possible solution?

I can try to find some emergency solution for you if you need it ASAP otherwise lets wait for Angel.
(I do know pain of not being able to load game... Endless Space 2 I'm looking at you)

[Durabys]

Thanks.
Where can one find the option for changing the speed factor at which Biter Evolution rises thanks to time and pollution? Because In six hours of play it is already at fifty percent and the pollution is not even touching a single nest.

During Map creation, go the the Advanced tab. You can tweak all kinds of stuff there. This is part of Vanilla Factorio as Orzelek mentioned.

Map generator

You have to understand I use the Delayed Turrets mod which gives turrets 12 seconds before they activate. So I cannot use Turret Creeping in my games.

Wait. I am asking a question: I thought your mod handled everything: evolution, pollution and expansion and that the vanilla map generation Advanced Settings tab was basically redundant and changing anything inside it wouldn't change anything in game.. Because I remember trying to deactivate expansion through it and it didn't work while I had your mod on.

[stoa]

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

[TheSAguy]

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

Could you please post your save?
Did you upgrade the mod and if so, from what version to what?
Thanks.

[stoa]

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

Could you please post your save?
Did you upgrade the mod and if so, from what version to what?
Thanks.

http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/2mKmQTQw/file.html
There you go, just dont mind the name of the savegame, bad habit

And i hope it doesnt matter that i have... way too many mods >.>

I tried to update to the new version with no luck, was running the previous version before

[TheSAguy]

Thanks.
Where can one find the option for changing the speed factor at which Biter Evolution rises thanks to time and pollution? Because In six hours of play it is already at fifty percent and the pollution is not even touching a single nest.

During Map creation, go the the Advanced tab. You can tweak all kinds of stuff there. This is part of Vanilla Factorio as Orzelek mentioned.

Map generator

You have to understand I use the Delayed Turrets mod which gives turrets 12 seconds before they activate. So I cannot use Turret Creeping in my games.

Wait. I am asking a question: I thought your mod handled everything: evolution, pollution and expansion and that the vanilla map generation Advanced Settings tab was basically redundant and changing anything inside it wouldn't change anything in game.. Because I remember trying to deactivate expansion through it and it didn't work while I had your mod on.

What NE Expansion does is handle Enemy Expansion and Evolution factors.
It takes whatever you have in the base game. (Using the advanced settings) and then applies the following for Evolution:
Doubled Pollution Value
50% Time factor
Only 10% of Destruction Factor.

Further, NE Expansion controls the size of Enemy Expansion groups.


Please note, you're also using the mod Nauvis Day It also controls Evolution, but does it totally different from NE Expansion... So you should probably only have one of these installed.

[TheSAguy]

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

Could you please post your save?
Did you upgrade the mod and if so, from what version to what?
Thanks.

http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/2mKmQTQw/file.html
There you go, just dont mind the name of the savegame, bad habit

And i hope it doesnt matter that i have... way too many mods >.>

I tried to update to the new version with no luck, was running the previous version before

This link does not want to download for me, only trying to install junk...

[stoa]

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

Could you please post your save?
Did you upgrade the mod and if so, from what version to what?
Thanks.

http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/2mKmQTQw/file.html
There you go, just dont mind the name of the savegame, bad habit

And i hope it doesnt matter that i have... way too many mods >.>

I tried to update to the new version with no luck, was running the previous version before

This link does not want to download for me, only trying to install junk...

Well that is.. weird.
Never had any issues with zippyshare, sorry >.>

Trying to attach it directly

[Alabastor]

I need halp

Had your mod running for quite a while in 0.14, so i threw it back in for 0.15

Everything was going well for ages, until u decided to use artifact collectors.
I mean, they worked and everything, however on reloading the game i just get greeted by this nice message
http://prntscr.com/g4d9nz

Any possible solution?

Also have the same error for anyone who tries to join my multiplayer game, but not me.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ ... E855E9ADC/

[BigBertie]

I changed the Evolution growth rate in the vanilla Advanced Settings to slow down Biter Evolution and it didn't change anything when I made a new map with it. I must be doing something wrong.

[Durabys]

Thanks.
Where can one find the option for changing the speed factor at which Biter Evolution rises thanks to time and pollution? Because In six hours of play it is already at fifty percent and the pollution is not even touching a single nest.

During Map creation, go the the Advanced tab. You can tweak all kinds of stuff there. This is part of Vanilla Factorio as Orzelek mentioned.

Map generator

You have to understand I use the Delayed Turrets mod which gives turrets 12 seconds before they activate. So I cannot use Turret Creeping in my games.

Wait. I am asking a question: I thought your mod handled everything: evolution, pollution and expansion and that the vanilla map generation Advanced Settings tab was basically redundant and changing anything inside it wouldn't change anything in game.. Because I remember trying to deactivate expansion through it and it didn't work while I had your mod on.

What NE Expansion does is handle Enemy Expansion and Evolution factors.
It takes whatever you have in the base game. (Using the advanced settings) and then applies the following for Evolution:
Doubled Pollution Value
50% Time factor
Only 10% of Destruction Factor.

Further, NE Expansion controls the size of Enemy Expansion groups.


Please note, you're also using the mod Nauvis Day It also controls Evolution, but does it totally different from NE Expansion... So you should probably only have one of these installed.

Muchas grazias!
Tanks! I have such settings that basically make it impossible to play the game as a turret creeper.

[TheSAguy]

I need halp

Had your mod running for quite a while in 0.14, so i threw it back in for 0.15

Everything was going well for ages, until u decided to use artifact collectors.
I mean, they worked and everything, however on reloading the game i just get greeted by this nice message
http://prntscr.com/g4d9nz

Any possible solution?

Also have the same error for anyone who tries to join my multiplayer game, but not me.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ ... E855E9ADC/

I luckiely still had an autosafe... was the last one tho, so i got reaaaally lucky there >.>

I'd still love to be able to use the collectors

Could you please post your save?
Did you upgrade the mod and if so, from what version to what?
Thanks.

http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/2mKmQTQw/file.html
There you go, just dont mind the name of the savegame, bad habit

And i hope it doesnt matter that i have... way too many mods >.>

I tried to update to the new version with no luck, was running the previous version before

This link does not want to download for me, only trying to install junk...

Well that is.. weird.
Never had any issues with zippyshare, sorry >.>

Trying to attach it directly

I don't have a fix yet, but for now, please comment out line 980 of the Control in NE Buildings:
Or download the attached one.
Should look like this:

Code: Select all

--script.on_load(On_Load)

That fill stop the crash, but Artifact Collectors won't work.

[TheSAguy]

V7.2.2 Should fix the Artifact Collector Issue.
Let me know,
Thanks to Orz!elek

[sp518]

Have you post issue to reika(the author of EndgameCombat,etc)?
His github issue page is
https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Reika_F ... ues/issues
It might not easily be found.

[naquada]

V7.2.2 Should fix the Artifact Collector Issue.
Let me know,
Thanks to Orz!elek

Hey,

Update fixed the problem. However the server became very unstable after that update and players went into desync loops to such degree that we had to remove the mod.
After removing it performance went up big time. Our server has around 40-50 mods on it. Anything that we can do to help solve the issue?