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map preset island

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Could you add a map preset for a map with lots of islands (and no mainland)?
Some settings like big or small islands would be nice.

If I try to do that with the current map generator I'm only getting lots of lakes but without any islands even when I set water frequency to very high and size to very big.

Could there maybe be just an option to invert land and water? The world with water frquency to very high and very big would be nice if all lakes would be land and the land would be water.
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i asked for that on steam since the beginning of factorio... i had a perfect map back in the day with the terrain segmentation still in there, now i lost interest in factorio since they cant seem to get any kind of waterworld / islands settings back into the game and i cant understand why. if people want to make i hard for them, them let them have the choice. esp. since this was already in the game...
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Add an "Islands" map type

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There is an "Island" map type in the game. As I understand it, it generates a single large island in an endless ocean.

I suggest adding a similar "Islands" map type that would generate an infinite number of such islands in an endless ocean.
Bonus points for:
  • Configurable size of islands and the distance between them.
  • An option to ensure that the starting island is without enemies.
I found a similar topic (but not the same): viewtopic.php?f=6&t=61342&p=370525
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There are different mods around that already do that:
  • RepeatingIslands
  • Islands World
  • New Islands
So you could use one of these until the devs incorporate islands settings in vanilla – which will most likely never happen.
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Thanks, I'll check those out!

Edit: actually, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RepeatingIslands seems to be exactly what I'm looking for!
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Large Islands - World Seed Generation (Islands Megabases)

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Island Megabase
Generate world seeds for multiple type islands.

What ?
Generates seed for multiple islands (small, large, medium variety). Starting Island should be Large or medium depending on difficulty. Starting island should
not have biters (include options for hardcore players to have biter nest on starting island). Small islands should have 1 type of resource. Medium can have 2-4
types. Large has minimum 3 types, except the starting large island whereas the starting resources should be there.
This could also make different biomes, climates on various island. Also creates new challenges for players and new achievements (launch a rocket without leaving the starting island?)
Why ?
This would open up more creativity for players and creations.
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Re: Large Islands - World Seed Generation (Islands Megabases)

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[Koub] Merged into older topic with similar suggestion.
Like in these mods ?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/islands_world
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IslandStart
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/NewIslands
There used to be this mod : https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RepeatingIslands, but it doesn't seem maintained any more.
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Re: Large Islands - World Seed Generation (Islands Megabases)

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Koub wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:44 pm [Koub] Merged into older topic with similar suggestion.
Like in these mods ?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/islands_world
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IslandStart
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/NewIslands
There used to be this mod : https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RepeatingIslands, but it doesn't seem maintained any more.
Something like this (eg.: for Multiplayer): Image
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That doesn’t look like a random map as created by the world generator. I think this is a typical mod, that generates the islands.
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ssilk wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:39 am That doesn’t look like a random map as created by the world generator. I think this is a typical mod, that generates the islands.
This is a map from anno 2070 (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=anno+2070+map ... &ia=images)
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:) ya, I know that this wasn’t generated by Factorio.

Its similar to a bakery: you have an engine, that can make dough and now you want that engine to create pretzels.

The world generator is optimized to create worlds that are looking natural, random, while at the same time create a pretty playable world with balanced resources for single player. And maybe much more, I’m not familiar with the API.

In other words: the world generator can make dough in various consistency, with raisins, with more or less water and so on, but it is just dough.

If you want form that in a special way, like regular distributed islands with equally distributed resources on them you need to program that. Maybe you can use the map-generator to create one natural looking island, and copy that around for each player.

In other words: you described a mod, because this special cases can never be built into a software, which was designed to make solves a general task. That is part of software, that is programmed “around” or “after” (depends on standpoint) that generality.
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