0.15 Steam production with the boilers

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0.15 Steam production with the boilers

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Ok so we all know that boilers ARE HUGE so here is what i made (in screenshot)

For me it works as its 1 boiler to 2 steam engines and be cause of how its set up its a good start for optimizing how to do it.
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using this setup here

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instead of 1 14 10 how it was in 0.14 i´m using now 1 5 10

looks good so far
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That looks pretty slick. How much coal do the new boilers use?
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Do boilers convert 1 water to 1 steam?

Pumps make 1200/second, and steam engines consume 30/second, according to the tooltips.
Is it 40 steam engines and 80 boileres per pump? That seems a lot higher than in 0.14.
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Ranakastrasz wrote:Do boilers convert 1 water to 1 steam?

Pumps make 1200/second, and steam engines consume 30/second, according to the tooltips.
Is it 40 steam engines and 80 boileres per pump? That seems a lot higher than in 0.14.
It seems that ratio needs an experiment to check or I missed it in prototype file. It does seem that steam is much more compact now and has significantly lower water usage.
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this is out of the way and working as an emergency backup, so i'm not terribly worried about being able to get into it.
1 Pump feeding 12 (could be 20) boilers, each feeding 2 steam engines. 5 of these lines gives me 120 engiens for about 107MW of power. Was 6 lines but then I wanted the uranium ore.
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Here's a 2-40-80 build that I pressure tested in creative mode and which I plan to use in my factories. It's fairly compact and it gets reasonably close to the theoretical output of 72MW (80 steam engines x 0.9 MW per steam engine), as shown below.

Theoretical input requirement is ~34.3 drills mining coal, which is verified in the setup below. A mining drill outputs 0.525 coal per second. One piece of coal has an energy value of 8 MJ, so one mining drill is effectively outputting 4.2 MJ per second. One steam engine at 100% performance has a rating of 0.9 MJ per second, which translates to a fuel requirement of 1.8 MJ per second due to boiler efficiency of 50%. Therefore, 80 steam engines have a fuel requirement of 144 MJ per second, which can be supplied by ~34.3 mining drills (each outputting 4.2 MJ per second).

Edit: Would appreciate if someone could let me know the right way to tag a portion of text using the spoiler button? I'm using the tags generated by the "spoiler=" button but it doesn't seem to be working.

The steam engines, boilers, water pumps and fuel belts:
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Maximum stable performance over a sustained period:
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Zoomed out view of my test setup:
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And when you're *really* short on water:
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A total of 72 MW (2 pumps, 40 boilers, 80 steam engines) can be extracted from a single small puddle. :-)
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One compressed yellow belt of coal can feed ~59 steam engines.
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iceman_1212 wrote:One compressed yellow belt of coal can feed ~59 steam engines.
at 100% load?
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impetus maximus wrote:
iceman_1212 wrote:One compressed yellow belt of coal can feed ~59 steam engines.
at 100% load?
Yes. One yellow belt carries ~13.33 pieces of coal per second, i.e., ~106.67 MJ per second (one piece of coal = 8 MJ), which, after taking into account boiler efficiency of 50% becomes ~53.33 MJ per second delivered to steam engines, each of which has a maximum rating of 0.9MJ per second (i.e., assuming full load) --> therefore, one compressed yellow belt of coal can feed ~59 steam engines at full load.
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