My MODS are:siggboy wrote:You need to also upload your "mods" folder so I can easily recreate your environment.
Compress your "mods" folder into a ZIP file and upload it.crazy142857 wrote:Or do you prefer me to upload all the mod's zip files?
Update the game to the latest version. That fixed somebody else's problem of the same nature.HiddenWolf wrote:I had trains dispatching to the outposts, but then they'd go to the next station in the line rather than to the requester. Eventually they'd end up back in the yard.
Can someone take a look?
That is exactly the help I was looking for. Helps me understand a complex system.siggboy wrote:Update the game to the latest version. That fixed somebody else's problem of the same nature.HiddenWolf wrote:I had trains dispatching to the outposts, but then they'd go to the next station in the line rather than to the requester. Eventually they'd end up back in the yard.
Can someone take a look?
If that does not help, check the lamp conditions at the providers and monitor one of the problematic providers and see if it receives an "R" signal.
What you describe is a provider not receiving the "R" signal or it being cleared prematurely, and then the train will use the linear schedule.
You can also connect the lamp to the train station and then add a "leave condition" of "R > 0" to the station. That way the trains will merely get stuck at the providers instead of doing an erratic tour, which will help you to isolate the problem.
I'm not going to download any more saves to solve "simple" problems like these, especially not if they have been solved by others or described in this thread already. It is too time consuming, and I'm not really playing Factorio anymore.
If you make absolutely no progress I can have a look, or maybe somebody else will have a look at your save.
If you remove the part of the circuit "on top" (at the provider), then it will just be a regular provider for a single resource. Should be sufficient for most cases -- multi-providers are not really that important (you can always build multiple single providers after all).HiddenWolf wrote:Should it be possible to use the older design with the newest depot/logic, or do I need to adapt to the new provider designs as well?
If so, is that as simple as removing the logic that is 'on top of' the provider?
I did try to adapt the provider, to adapt it to my station layout and to add a balancer.siggboy wrote:If you remove the part of the circuit "on top" (at the provider), then it will just be a regular provider for a single resource. Should be sufficient for most cases -- multi-providers are not really that important (you can always build multiple single providers after all).HiddenWolf wrote:Should it be possible to use the older design with the newest depot/logic, or do I need to adapt to the new provider designs as well?
If so, is that as simple as removing the logic that is 'on top of' the provider?
A few posts higher up I've given some instructions for how to adapt the provider.
If you're unsure you can simply use regular inserters instead of filter inserters and not change anything else.
If I decouple the requester, I getsiggboy wrote:You should disconnect the requester, so the provider will be the only station on the network (that's only so you can see the isolated signal from the provider on your test network).
Then, while the "S=1" signal is on the bus, the provider should output the amount that it can deliver.
If the provider does not output a resource signal, then it's either because it does not have enough of the resource, or because it's not wired up correctly.
The resource information comes from the buffer chests, they have to be connected to the combinator that checks for the resource amount (for example: "Coal > 4,000"). That signal then goes through the circuit and ends up on the red wire if the correct conditions are met (either S=1 or Q=<station number of provider>).
Yes, you need to be careful, because the lamp, combinator and train station itself are three separate entities. However, if you notice the yellow frame that is lighting up when you mouse over the entities, then it is always clear which entity you're connecting to.HiddenWolf wrote:Found another missing wire. The smart station, the lamp and the combinator are too close together.
Had it working, not sure if it will keep working. Will continue whenever I find the time.
Nothing. The lane with the active light is the lane that will be used for the next delivery.azakir nalda wrote:Currently i have setup the depot but when my trains get to the depot for the first time only 1 light for the lane selector actually lights up. What am i doing wrong?
1. You want the constant combinator with normal train signal # signal and L=1. Change the train signal to # of lanes +1.EricCoon wrote:Hi,
I'm trying to setup the depot and are following your documentation in viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25311&start=140#p191133
1. Set the total number of lanes (plus 1) in the counter at the lane selector
Where is that? In the example save I found no arithmetic or decider who has the value 4
2. Set the number of wagons per train in the appropriate combinator (arithmetic combinator in the top row of the depot circuit)
Which arithmetic excatly? I marked in the screenshot one, who I suspect to be the right one. 4. Set the number of expected total outposts in the constant combinator at the bottom left side of the depot
I am not sure which one that should be. I found one in the upper left with 30 Train Stop Signals. Is that the one I should change?
Thanks in Advance
The contraption is almost entirely base factorio functionality with combinator logic (only really need smart trains besides that) and it still works fine. I just whipped it out myself and it works fine in testing, same as before. Refer to Sigg's last exposition post:turkish25 wrote:Hey guys,
Thought i would break Factorio out for another blast. Is this still working on the current build?
Running my old blueprints and getting some issues.
If it is dont suppose someone could put up the most up to date blueprints for provider, requester and depot?
Cheers
Those blueprints and instructions are the latest. I used Foreman to import the blueprints.siggboy wrote:The value "D=1" is in a constant combinator and you can have that enabled while you build things. It makes no sense to ever disable it, because it holds the station number of the Depot, which is usually "1" and never changes.Acarin wrote:Place the Depot (and maybe disable D=1 while I build), setting train size to 4
Because "D=1" is always on the red wire bus, it's a good way to check if a point is connected to the red wire bus or not (if it doesn't have the "D=1" value it's not connected).
The "stacker stations" are the depot stations (= outgoing lanes). They are all named "Depot", and there is no line from stacker to depot. The depot lanes need to be smart stations and they have to be connected to the depot circuit. Refer to the demo map for this.Add the stacker stations (non-smart?) and create a train line that simply runs Stacker - Depot
The "stacker" is what is in front of the outgoing lanes and keeps more trains than you have lanes. It has no stations. Do not confuse the stacker with the depot lanes.
You do NOT add stations to the start of the train line. You always add them to the END of the train line. The first station in the train line is "Depot", and it is ALWAYS the first station in the sequence. There is no reason to ever change this, but you could.Add the Requester stations (all at the furnaces, all multi-item receipt, so no need to differentiate), wire them into my ore buffer and set appropriate requirement level(s). Add to the start of the train line (Requester - stacker - Depot)
The "use signal #" checkbox must be active for ALL stations (depot, provider and requester). On the depot the condition needs to be "D>0", on your providers/requesters you can make your own conditions, but "full/empty" is usually correct as you've pointed out.Add the Provider stations, wiring them into the outpost buffer chests and making sure that "load size" is set to 8k, then adding each P staton in turn to the end of the SmartTrain line route
Adjust the rules on the line so that trains leave P when full, leave R when empty, and leave Depot on Signal #
You do not "enable D=1", it is always there. In order to suspend/resume the depot (main circuit), you can disable the combinator that emits "S=1", then the light will turn red and the depot will not send any trains. It is a good idea to do this (and wait for your trains to return) if you make major changes to the setup. Just adding a station (to the END of the line) does not require this, but it always helps to not have any trains leave when you make changes.Enable D=1 and cross my fingers
The train station itself does not need to be connected to the red wire bus. The red wire bus connects all the providers, requesters and the depot. The stacker stations are NOT connected to the red wire bus, they are connected with red and green wire to the depot itself but it is separate from the red wire bus.Each Smart station should be connected to the red bus with a wire from the Stop itself (not the combinator) to the power pole and out to the circuit network. The red wire already connected to the power pole in the blueprint is separate to this, isn't it?
No you do not need to cross-wire lamp and combinator. Wire it up as it is done in the demo map and blueprints.Does that sound about right? And do I need to cross-wire the Smart Station combinator and lamp for your system (so that the light comes on when the station is actively broadcasting for pickup or delivery)?
Try to follow the instructions in viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25311&start=140#p191133
They are very detailed.
If in doubt, look at the demo map and do it as it's done there.
The depot you should use is this: viewtopic.php?f=193&t=25311&start=260#p201443
The provider you should use is this: viewtopic.php?f=193&t=25311&start=280#p205102
(It's a multiprovider which you might not need, but it also does fix a few other things so it's recommended.)
You should start with a simple setup (one provider, one requester), and then go from there. Don't install a lot of stations at once before you have figured things out.
Here's a blueprint book with all the recent versions:
BlueprintsUse these as they are in the book, of course you can make them larger for more wagons, and you can change the multiprovider to a simple provider just by changing the inserter type (and removing the part of the circuit that is connected to the inserter array).
